Members flat earth Posted January 8, 2008 Members Share Posted January 8, 2008 well back on topic...Seems to be a bit of speculation over at VSE that there is a possible new Electribe on the horizon. The line is due an update. Particularly with more up-to-date storage facilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MuzikB Posted January 9, 2008 Members Share Posted January 9, 2008 I'm hoping for another Roland Groovebox myself and hoping Roland gets it right. I've been waiting for the evolution of the MC-909 since 2004. Their little computer extension groovebox (MC-808) experiment failed so come back around Roland and give us the MC-909 successor we've been waiting for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tony Scharf Posted January 9, 2008 Members Share Posted January 9, 2008 Their little computer extension groovebox (MC-808) experiment failed so come back around Roland and give us the MC-909 successor we've been waiting for. I dont see how it was really a failure. I just got a used one, and Ive been getting along with it great! The PC editor works very well for moving samples to it and doing patch editing, and its been very nice as a hardware sequencer. What were the expections it failed to live up to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MuzikB Posted January 9, 2008 Members Share Posted January 9, 2008 I dont see how it was really a failure. I just got a used one, and Ive been getting along with it great! The PC editor works very well for moving samples to it and doing patch editing, and its been very nice as a hardware sequencer. What were the expections it failed to live up to? Roland grooveboxes are workstation types and in NO WAY should have to have a computer for 100 functionality. Most of the point of having one is for those that don't want to use a computer.Roland hopefully learned a part of this lesson with the MV-8800 which is their #1 selling product in that price range in the US.I tried to like the MC-808 while I was testing it out in the Cherry Hill guitar center and was going pretty good until I got into sound editing. I called the sales specialist over and asked to see the manual after realizing the inability to adjust many of Roland's S+S parameters. You can imagine my surprise in finding that a $1000 music instrument still requires an $800-$2400 computer to use it fully. WTF! Now I know some of you are thinking but B, you had an SH-201. Yes I did but unfortunately I didn't research that one as much as I should of as it had several other function to my surprise that needed a computer to use. You'll notice that I don't have it anymore.I've just come to not seeing the point of a dedicated hardware instrument that REQUIRES a computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Roland grooveboxes are workstation types and in NO WAY should have to have a computer for 100 functionality. Most of the point of having one is for those that don't want to use a computer. I've just come to not seeing the point of a dedicated hardware instrument that REQUIRES a computer. Granted I have a MC-808 but, it is linked to a MC-909 that is the master. The 808 is only used for extra sequencer rom tracks. The sampling is done in the 909. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mildbill Posted January 9, 2008 Members Share Posted January 9, 2008 ....I've just come to not seeing the point of a dedicated hardware instrument that REQUIRES a computer. That's a big change for you. About a year ago, you were saying you wouldn't buy anything that couldn't integrate with a computer through USB. I pretty much agree with your current stance though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members midi Posted January 9, 2008 Members Share Posted January 9, 2008 I dont know about Roland anymore, most of their new stuff is crap except for the V-Synth GT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members raffor Posted January 9, 2008 Members Share Posted January 9, 2008 Now I know some of you are thinking but B, you had an SH-201. Yes I did but unfortunately I didn't research that one as much as I should of as it had several other function to my surprise that needed a computer to use. You'll notice that I don't have it anymore. I thought that all functions are available on the unit but the arpeggiator programming. Am I wrong?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khazul Posted January 9, 2008 Members Share Posted January 9, 2008 My pet annoyance over the Virus TI - have to plug it into my PC to create a user arp pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MuzikB Posted January 9, 2008 Members Share Posted January 9, 2008 That's a big change for you. About a year ago, you were saying you wouldn't buy anything that couldn't integrate with a computer through USB.I pretty much agree with your current stance though. I'm all for computer connectivity as long as it's an extension of the hardware pieces function but not a requirement. The Triton Extreme has a USB port for midi and data transfer but it isn't a necessity. The Prophet 08 editor is helpful when you want to see everything and use the patch generator but you can still get to all the parameters from the unit itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MuzikB Posted January 9, 2008 Members Share Posted January 9, 2008 I thought that all functions are available on the unit but the arpeggiator programming. Am I wrong?? The arp functions, full use of the FX parameters, and there was something else....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MuzikB Posted January 9, 2008 Members Share Posted January 9, 2008 My pet annoyance over the Virus TI - have to plug it into my PC to create a user arp pattern.Exactly. I don't have to worry about that on the Prophet 08 or my Triton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members raffor Posted January 9, 2008 Members Share Posted January 9, 2008 The arp functions, full use of the FX parameters, and there was something else....... When I have a look at the manual, the effect parameters are all accessible via combinations of buttons and knobs or envelope sliders (page 63/64). The only thing that cannot be accessed is the arp programming and the program name according to the list. Now, there are some very strange button combination to be punched in. You most likely will need the manual next to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 I dont know about Roland anymore, most of their new stuff is crap except for the V-Synth GT. Please breakdown what make these crap.SH-201Fantom XJuno-GSonicCellGW-7V-Synth XTMV-8800MC-808SP-555SP-606I own 5 of the above and find them far from crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Audacity Works Posted January 9, 2008 Members Share Posted January 9, 2008 Please breakdown what make these crap....GW-7...It's an arranger that says "Workstation" on the front panel? The others I have no beef with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 It's an arranger that says "Workstation" on the front panel?The others I have no beef with. The soundset is pretty good on the GW-7 but, the layout is different than your average Roland workstation. Tones instead of presets is strange along with the work flow. I was looking at one for a second setup but, went with a Juno-G instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MuzikB Posted January 9, 2008 Members Share Posted January 9, 2008 When I have a look at the manual, the effect parameters are all accessible via combinations of buttons and knobs or envelope sliders (page 63/64). The only thing that cannot be accessed is the arp programming and the program name according to the list. Now, there are some very strange button combination to be punched in. You most likely will need the manual next to it. If I recall, several button presses will not allow you to change all the FX parameters. Just the type of FX used but I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tonyrobbins Posted January 9, 2008 Members Share Posted January 9, 2008 somebody mention that a new year event some guys would be playing the new roland flagship did anybody see that?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Igor_ Posted January 10, 2008 Members Share Posted January 10, 2008 Bassic.. That you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Igor_ Posted January 10, 2008 Members Share Posted January 10, 2008 Hahaha.. Man, I hadn't seen that movie, or a clip from that movie, in over 20 years. Thanks for the blast to the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crufty Posted January 10, 2008 Members Share Posted January 10, 2008 When I have a look at the manual, the effect parameters are all accessible via combinations of buttons and knobs or envelope sliders (page 63/64). The only thing that cannot be accessed is the arp programming and the program name according to the list. Now, there are some very strange button combination to be punched in. You most likely will need the manual next to it. Not really.... Try to setup your reverbs. Can't do it. Likewise for most of the fx. And if there is a way to change the waveform from inside the box, I haven't been able to figure it out. Not to mention the crashing etc etc. That said, it's not a horrible device. But a tiny bit more effort on Roland's part would have yielded a much better machine. I use mine everyday for some reason. Strange but true. I have found it makes a pretty nice drum machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Craymaster Posted January 10, 2008 Members Share Posted January 10, 2008 I think CME is going to announce the ZSC - again. (it's teh {censored}e!) Yamaha will probably show the Motif Rack XS and some new control surfaces or a new master keyboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Keymaster Posted January 10, 2008 Members Share Posted January 10, 2008 I reckon Roland will announce a new workstation.They have been promoting a Fantom X deal for the last few weeks giving cash back on the X models and providing free SRX boards as well till the end of Jan. Get rid of old stock make way for the new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tony Scharf Posted January 10, 2008 Members Share Posted January 10, 2008 I have found it makes a pretty nice drum machine. Which is precisely what I bought it for. The sequencing of external synths and the fantom sound engine (well, 90% of it anyway) were just extras. I wasnt interested in this unit until they hit their current low second hand market price. If I were trying to produce entire tracks using just this one piece, I would naturally be frustrated. but then, Id be that way about any one unit solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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