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I'm hoping for another Roland Groovebox myself and hoping Roland gets it right. I've been waiting for the evolution of the MC-909 since 2004.

 

Their little computer extension groovebox (MC-808) experiment failed so come back around Roland and give us the MC-909 successor we've been waiting for.

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Their little computer extension groovebox (MC-808) experiment failed so come back around Roland and give us the MC-909 successor we've been waiting for.

 

 

I dont see how it was really a failure. I just got a used one, and Ive been getting along with it great! The PC editor works very well for moving samples to it and doing patch editing, and its been very nice as a hardware sequencer.

 

What were the expections it failed to live up to?

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I dont see how it was really a failure. I just got a used one, and Ive been getting along with it great! The PC editor works very well for moving samples to it and doing patch editing, and its been very nice as a hardware sequencer.


What were the expections it failed to live up to?



Roland grooveboxes are workstation types and in NO WAY should have to have a computer for 100 functionality. Most of the point of having one is for those that don't want to use a computer.

Roland hopefully learned a part of this lesson with the MV-8800 which is their #1 selling product in that price range in the US.

I tried to like the MC-808 while I was testing it out in the Cherry Hill guitar center and was going pretty good until I got into sound editing. I called the sales specialist over and asked to see the manual after realizing the inability to adjust many of Roland's S+S parameters. You can imagine my surprise in finding that a $1000 music instrument still requires an $800-$2400 computer to use it fully.

WTF! :idk:

Now I know some of you are thinking but B, you had an SH-201. Yes I did but unfortunately I didn't research that one as much as I should of as it had several other function to my surprise that needed a computer to use. You'll notice that I don't have it anymore.

I've just come to not seeing the point of a dedicated hardware instrument that REQUIRES a computer.

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Roland grooveboxes are workstation types and in NO WAY should have to have a computer for 100 functionality. Most of the point of having one is for those that don't want to use a computer.


I've just come to not seeing the point of a dedicated hardware instrument that REQUIRES a computer.



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Granted I have a MC-808 but, it is linked to a MC-909 that is the master. The 808 is only used for extra sequencer rom tracks. The sampling is done in the 909.

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I've just come to not seeing the point of a dedicated hardware instrument that REQUIRES a computer.

 

 

 

 

That's a big change for you. About a year ago, you were saying you wouldn't buy anything that couldn't integrate with a computer through USB.

 

I pretty much agree with your current stance though.

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Now I know some of you are thinking but B, you had an SH-201. Yes I did but unfortunately I didn't research that one as much as I should of as it had several other function to my surprise that needed a computer to use. You'll notice that I don't have it anymore.

 

 

I thought that all functions are available on the unit but the arpeggiator programming. Am I wrong??

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That's a big change for you. About a year ago, you were saying you wouldn't buy anything that couldn't integrate with a computer through USB.


I pretty much agree with your current stance though.

 

 

I'm all for computer connectivity as long as it's an extension of the hardware pieces function but not a requirement.

 

The Triton Extreme has a USB port for midi and data transfer but it isn't a necessity. The Prophet 08 editor is helpful when you want to see everything and use the patch generator but you can still get to all the parameters from the unit itself.

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The arp functions, full use of the FX parameters, and there was something else.......

 

 

When I have a look at the manual, the effect parameters are all accessible via combinations of buttons and knobs or envelope sliders (page 63/64). The only thing that cannot be accessed is the arp programming and the program name according to the list.

 

Now, there are some very strange button combination to be punched in. You most likely will need the manual next to it.

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I dont know about Roland anymore, most of their new stuff is crap except for the V-Synth GT.
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Please breakdown what make these crap.

SH-201
Fantom X
Juno-G
SonicCell
GW-7
V-Synth XT
MV-8800
MC-808
SP-555
SP-606

I own 5 of the above and find them far from crap.


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It's an arranger that says "Workstation" on the front panel?


The others I have no beef with.

 

 

The soundset is pretty good on the GW-7 but, the layout is different than your average Roland workstation. Tones instead of presets is strange along with the work flow. I was looking at one for a second setup but, went with a Juno-G instead.

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When I have a look at the manual, the effect parameters are all accessible via combinations of buttons and knobs or envelope sliders (page 63/64). The only thing that cannot be accessed is the arp programming and the program name according to the list.


Now, there are some very strange button combination to be punched in. You most likely will need the manual next to it.

 

 

If I recall, several button presses will not allow you to change all the FX parameters. Just the type of FX used but I could be wrong.

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When I have a look at the manual, the effect parameters are all accessible via combinations of buttons and knobs or envelope sliders (page 63/64). The only thing that cannot be accessed is the arp programming and the program name according to the list.


Now, there are some very strange button combination to be punched in. You most likely will need the manual next to it.

 

 

Not really....

 

Try to setup your reverbs. Can't do it. Likewise for most of the fx.

 

And if there is a way to change the waveform from inside the box, I haven't been able to figure it out.

 

Not to mention the crashing etc etc.

 

That said, it's not a horrible device. But a tiny bit more effort on Roland's part would have yielded a much better machine. I use mine everyday for some reason. Strange but true. I have found it makes a pretty nice drum machine.

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I have found it makes a pretty nice drum machine.

 

 

Which is precisely what I bought it for. The sequencing of external synths and the fantom sound engine (well, 90% of it anyway) were just extras. I wasnt interested in this unit until they hit their current low second hand market price.

 

If I were trying to produce entire tracks using just this one piece, I would naturally be frustrated. but then, Id be that way about any one unit solution.

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