Members John_McEnroe Posted June 14, 2009 Members Share Posted June 14, 2009 I was thinking of picking up a Hog, as it seems pretty cool from the online vids. Now that this new Pog 2 is coming out I am having second thoughts (the pog2 just looks so sexay ) Does the Hog really kick the Pogs ass? I love that freeze chord thing the Hog does... but the Hog is huge and the Pog 2 can store presets much more easily. Anyone have a thought on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members butterknucket Posted June 14, 2009 Members Share Posted June 14, 2009 I'm not really sure how you can compare the two since the POG is straight octaves, and the HOG is octaves plus fifths and thirds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John_McEnroe Posted June 14, 2009 Author Members Share Posted June 14, 2009 I'm not too interested in 3rds and 5ths. IIf I would just be using the straight octaves anyway is the Hog still better? I really like the pedal functions of the Hog.. but maybe I don't need it. Unfortunately no stores around me have the Hog in stock for me to try in person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members amarr1 Posted June 14, 2009 Members Share Posted June 14, 2009 I was thinking this too, the POG has more preset storage capability even, cheaper, smaller, etc. The only thing the HOG really has against it is the freeze gliss and those weird filter effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John_McEnroe Posted June 14, 2009 Author Members Share Posted June 14, 2009 8 presets also seems like overkill on a Pog... can you really get 8 distinctly different sounds from it? I would really love to see an XO Hog. Having a huge separate breakout box just to hold six presets is pretty meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members amarr1 Posted June 14, 2009 Members Share Posted June 14, 2009 8 presets also seems like overkill on a Pog... can you really get 8 distinctly different sounds from it? I would really love to see an XO Hog. Having a huge separate breakout box just to hold six presets is pretty meh. I was thinking this too, I'd probably only use 2 or 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John_McEnroe Posted June 14, 2009 Author Members Share Posted June 14, 2009 I was thinking this too, I'd probably only use 2 or 3. Have you had a chance to try a Hog yet? It seems to me like it could be either totally amazing... or one of those pedals that sounds good when you are noodling around, but never really makes it into a finished track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members josh27 Posted June 14, 2009 Members Share Posted June 14, 2009 The POG also has detune, not sure if the HOG does though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members petejt Posted June 14, 2009 Members Share Posted June 14, 2009 Detune is the key Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted June 14, 2009 Members Share Posted June 14, 2009 The HOG detunes when using the expression pedal. Most guys who knock the HOG haven't really used one for very long. Once you have one, it would be tough to go back to a POG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hooya Posted June 14, 2009 Members Share Posted June 14, 2009 I have a HOG, although I think I want to do an A/B/C comparison between the strict octave sounds of the HOG, POG2 and MicroPOG. I have a feeling that for straight kick-ass lower octave punch that the POG2 is going to ruin the others. Did you see that demo video of the POG2? The low end is just insane! Unless that's how he has it EQ'd or how the amp sounds or the microphone on the camera, but I kinda doubt it's just that. It's the only thing that I find the HOG to be somewhat disappointing in and that's that I really wish I could get more low end punch out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members b_nehpets Posted June 14, 2009 Members Share Posted June 14, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hooya Posted June 14, 2009 Members Share Posted June 14, 2009 I think this is what made the OP start this thread. But yeah, sexy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SpectralJulian Posted June 14, 2009 Members Share Posted June 14, 2009 POG2 = octaves and slow attack volume, and detuned upper octaves HOG = octaves, harmonies, pitch bends, freeze, glissando, filter sweeps, and a slow attack volume split between the octaves Depends on what features are important to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hooya Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 prqKi_sZ22I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 POG2 video demo No offense to Kenny, but this is an example of how I would not use a pitch shifter - to do blues noodling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hooya Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 True. But at least you hear kinda what the thing sounds like. See what I mean about huge low end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 True. But at least you hear kinda what the thing sounds like. See what I mean about huge low end? It doesn't sound that different from a HOG to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fightthepower Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 I love the HOG- for me it's the expression modes that really set it apart. The hold/gliss function in particular is kicks some serious ass. You can glide from note to note and with the exp toe-down the note is held, freeing up your hands for delay knob twisting and whatever else you can think of Here's a clip of with my bass-prunes&custard-HOG (using exp and gliss)-bassmurf-polychorus-delay. The HOG tracks fuzz and whatever else you could throw at it, and by slowly bleeding notes into each other with the gliss function you can get some really cool erie sounds: http://soundclick.com/share?songid=7663642 It starts off a little slow but its only 4min- my favorite part is at 3:20- sounds like a cracked out jack&thebox or something.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TomCTC Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 It doesn't sound that different from a HOG to me Really? I think the HOG has more of an impact on the signal with all of those 3rds and 5ths and octaves and everything going on. That demo just sounded like a HOG with the -1 and +1 octave sliders up. I don't really use alot of the features on my HOG, but the ones that do matter (mainly freeze+gliss) are pretty damn impressive and, IMO, easier to find a place for in a song. Really though, the pedal as a whole is an organ simulator; that's the initial sound I got out of it when I first plugged in it, and that's what I still mainly use it for. If the POG2 sounds anything like the original POG's organ sound, the HOG is a little less churchy sounding and more Hammond B-3ish, if that matters to you. And you guys are having an issue with low end on your HOGs? How do you have them set up? I get plenty of lows with mine.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SpectralJulian Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 I get a lot of low end from the HOG with my setup. Remember though, Hooya plays bassoon. Low end for a guitar player is a bit different. I'll admit on bass though it does fatten it up a bit, the impact isn't nearly as big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Collapse Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 Guys complaining about a HOG not having any low end are probably playing it into a {censored}ing Champ or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SpectralJulian Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 Nah, Hooya plays into a pretty badass rig. But he's a bassoon player, so his low end demands are just higher I'd assume Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kayzer Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 Sold my HOG but now i am GASing a POG2 think i will go for one as soon as i find a cool used deal ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members petejt Posted June 15, 2009 Members Share Posted June 15, 2009 It'd be the nice if the memory presets on the POG2 could be called up via MIDI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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