Members strtdv Posted August 6, 2009 Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 I've just finished doing the 'Tone' part, which is a switch that lets you bypass the tone stack on the muff. All it does is lif the ground when engaged. Gives you LOTS more mids and about a 6dB volume boost. IMO it opens up the sound a bit too. I think the pedal will sound better in a band with another guitarist now, and I can also see bass players liking this mod. Now I just need to get a 3PDT toggle switch for the 'Wicker' part that removes the 470pF caps and I'll be set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crxsh Posted August 6, 2009 Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 That's cool. I don't even think I've heard of anyone doing this mod to a standard muff since the TW version came out. Nice!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members strtdv Posted August 6, 2009 Author Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 It's actually a very easy to do mod. The only difficult part is sourcing a 3PDT toggle switch, as EHX don't use one in their switching, they use a chip AFAIK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AMZ-FX Posted August 6, 2009 Moderators Share Posted August 6, 2009 I've just finished doing the 'Tone' part, which is a switch that lets you bypass the tone stack on the muff. All it does is lif the ground when engaged. Gives you LOTS more mids and about a 6dB volume boost. This mod is from my web site at http://www.muzique.com/lab/tbypass.htm if anyone is interested in trying it. For the record, it was posted long before the Tone Wicker pedal came out. I have no idea if this bypass method is similar to the Tone Wicker nor do I make any representation that they are similar. E-H is a great company who have given us many wonderful pedals over the years - a big thumbs-up to them. regards, Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members strtdv Posted August 6, 2009 Author Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 This mod is from my web site at http://www.muzique.com/lab/tbypass.htm if anyone is interested in trying it. For the record, it was posted long before the Tone Wicker pedal came out. I have no idea if this bypass method is similar to the Tone Wicker nor do I make any representation that they are similar. E-H is a great company who have given us many wonderful pedals over the years - a big thumbs-up to them. regards, Jack I actually used some of the stuff on your website as a reference, so thanks, that was really helpful The only minor thing is that, in the NYC reissues anyway, the tone stack uses 2 22k resistors, not a 22k and a 39k. I love EHX stuff too, they're not afraid to try out crazy stuff that other mainstream manufacturers shy away from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the_woodoo_mule Posted August 6, 2009 Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 I plan to do this mods to a bass big muff next month/paycheck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pinkzep52 Posted August 6, 2009 Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 stupid SMD little big muff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ibentmywookie Posted August 6, 2009 Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 I plan to do this mods to a bass big muff next month/paycheck. Err, I'm pretty sure the Bass Big Muff has SMD components which makes modding pretty difficult unless you have experience with SMD components. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kismet78 Posted August 6, 2009 Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 It's actually a very easy to do mod. The only difficult part is sourcing a 3PDT toggle switch, as EHX don't use one in their switching, they use a chip AFAIK. http://cgi.ebay.com/Miniature-3PDT-Toggle-Switch-ON-ON-M302_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4634Q2ec0Q2em14Q2el1262QQhashZitem2c505c35b1QQitemZ190326781361QQptZModelQ5fRRQ5fTrainsQQsalenotsupported Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the_woodoo_mule Posted August 6, 2009 Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 Err, I'm pretty sure the Bass Big Muff has SMD components which makes modding pretty difficult unless you have experience with SMD components. NOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!there goes my most versatile muff ever dream! Seriusly , can somebody with the bass big muff confirm this? I really don`t wanna go without dry or the wicker option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sethlover Posted August 6, 2009 Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 NOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!there goes my most versatile muff ever dream! Seriusly , can somebody with the bass big muff confirm this? I really don`t wanna go without dry or the wicker option. Don't cry about it. I'm sure you can find a used BMP on the CL for $20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Neon Soul Posted August 6, 2009 Members Share Posted August 6, 2009 I don't really understand schematics, can you post what you did for the tone bypass with pics possibly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NiCkMiLnE Posted August 7, 2009 Members Share Posted August 7, 2009 ^ +1..pics of before/after/during? guide how to do it? so this basically just makes it more full sounding and less like somone scooped mah mids and busted mah speaker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members strtdv Posted August 7, 2009 Author Members Share Posted August 7, 2009 I don't really understand schematics, can you post what you did for the tone bypass with pics possibly? Sure thing; Unsolder/lift out the terminal of both the cap and resistor nearest the ground (shown on the picture), and solder wires from the ends of both components to one terminal of the switch. Then solder wires from the next terminal of the switch to the points you removed the compononts from. edit; I should point out this is not my photo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AMZ-FX Posted August 7, 2009 Moderators Share Posted August 7, 2009 I actually used some of the stuff on your website as a reference, so thanks, that was really helpful The only minor thing is that, in the NYC reissues anyway, the tone stack uses 2 22k resistors, not a 22k and a 39k. Thanks. 22k... hmmm, I'll look into that. It will take out some of the mid scoop but also rolls off high end when the tone pot is at mid-point. A 56k instead of the 39k is an interesting mod. regards, Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members strtdv Posted August 8, 2009 Author Members Share Posted August 8, 2009 Got the switch I needed for the 'wicker' part of the mod today, so I now have a Big Muff Pi with Tone Wicker. Obligatory Pic: The tone part, as shown in the pic I posted earlier, simply lifts the ground from the tone stack. The wicker part removes the three 470pF capacitors that smooth out the treble but can leave the muff sounding wooly and indistinct, especially at lower sustain levels. Now I can switch in an out the caps as desired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gold_Ninja Posted August 29, 2009 Members Share Posted August 29, 2009 Do you have a diagram for the wicker mod? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members strtdv Posted August 29, 2009 Author Members Share Posted August 29, 2009 Sure. (again, image not mine, I've just added labels) This adds quite a bit of treble, and would work well with humbucker guitars. If you wanted to experiment a bit you could just pick 2 of the 3 caps to do this to (all it does is remove them from the circuit), or you could wire it so that the switch would change between the stock cap and one of a different value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members companyman Posted August 29, 2009 Members Share Posted August 29, 2009 this is a very helpful thread, you rock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members empire_machine Posted August 29, 2009 Members Share Posted August 29, 2009 i love my muff w/ tone wicker. good luck with the mod. it was a good choice, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members V Posted August 29, 2009 Members Share Posted August 29, 2009 Man, I should really mod my Muff to True Bypass. That's one of the main reasons i don't use it that much. Its bypass is really not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blueduck577 Posted August 30, 2009 Members Share Posted August 30, 2009 i've done the mod also. sounds great. the third switch just lifts the input resistor on the first stage. try it, it can be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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