Members ATauO Posted December 3, 2010 Members Share Posted December 3, 2010 Life and death can be summed up in the following 4 words: Don't be an asshole. If you believe in religion or reincarnation, then when you die living your life as an asshole will suck when it comes to the afterlife or reincarnation. If you believe there is nothing after life, then don't die an asshole because no family/friend will miss you, think of you, or wish you were still around, and your legacy is the only thing that tied you to this world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoboPimp Posted December 3, 2010 Members Share Posted December 3, 2010 Simple intuition tells us that this is false; yes, we're made of the same stuff, but clearly, our language, manipulation of the natural world, subjugation of the very fabric of reality, the presence of consciousness... it is very plain that we, as a species, are not slightly different than other animals, but are completely and entirely different in many ways. a lexus is a lot different than a model T but they're both cars, GPS doesn't make it divine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ryan. Posted December 3, 2010 Author Members Share Posted December 3, 2010 No one is very creative thus far. When you die your spirit is laid to rest in a sheet of paper. Origami is made of you and for the same amount of time you were on Earth, you hang in a shop window as a paper swan watching your life stroll by in muted shades of the colors you can barely remember. Finally your past self will meet with you in that shop window and again you'll be born to Earth to try again. And the more you live and die, the more you realize that there are very few people on Earth. Its just the same people living their lives over and over, getting better and better at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Poltergeist Posted December 3, 2010 Members Share Posted December 3, 2010 Life and death can be summed up in the following 4 words: Don't be an asshole. If you believe in religion or reincarnation, then when you die living your life as an asshole will suck when it comes to the afterlife or reincarnation. If you believe there is nothing after life, then don't die an asshole because no family/friend will miss you, think of you, or wish you were still around, and your legacy is the only thing that tied you to this world. basically this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ben_allison Posted December 3, 2010 Members Share Posted December 3, 2010 no... that's simply not true...... well no truer than saying a dolphin is totally different to an eagle. You don't see a fundamental distinction between us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Poltergeist Posted December 3, 2010 Members Share Posted December 3, 2010 No one is very creative thus far. When you die your spirit is laid to rest in a sheet of paper. Origami is made of you and for the same amount of time you were on Earth, you hang in a shop window as a paper swan watching your life stroll by in muted shades of the colors you can barely remember. Finally your past self will meet with you in that shop window and again you'll be born to Earth to try again. And the more you live and die, the more you realize that there are very few people on Earth. Its just the same people living their lives over and over, getting better and better at it. beautiful way to put it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ben_allison Posted December 3, 2010 Members Share Posted December 3, 2010 a lexus is a lot different than a model T but they're both cars, GPS doesn't make it divine Poor analogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hahavishnu Posted December 3, 2010 Members Share Posted December 3, 2010 you become a MOD at TGP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reauchambeau Posted December 3, 2010 Members Share Posted December 3, 2010 You don't see a fundamental distinction between us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ryan. Posted December 3, 2010 Author Members Share Posted December 3, 2010 you give humans far too much credit, we're destroying the planet. the most studied "intelligent" people on earth will tell you that we basically know nothing about the universe. Yet we know infinitely more about it than a turtle does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoboPimp Posted December 3, 2010 Members Share Posted December 3, 2010 You don't see a fundamental distinction between us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jesse G Posted December 3, 2010 Members Share Posted December 3, 2010 You don't see a fundamental distinction between us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoboPimp Posted December 3, 2010 Members Share Posted December 3, 2010 Yet we know infinitely more about it than a turtle does. what turtle told you this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ryan. Posted December 3, 2010 Author Members Share Posted December 3, 2010 just because you can't understand a dolphin doesn't mean it doesn't talk, it just means we are ignorant to it any object in motion bends time and space, it has nothing to do with humans we can't recreate the power of our sun ? fusion and fission are different Some one didn't see Spider Man 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ben_allison Posted December 3, 2010 Members Share Posted December 3, 2010 just because you can't understand a dolphin doesn't mean it doesn't talk, it just means we are ignorant to it any object in motion bends time and space, it has nothing to do with humans we can't recreate the power of our sun ? fusion and fission are different You're nit picking at the expense of my larger point and you know it. Our ability to interpret dolphin squeaks is irrelevant. Even if there were saying, "I love you and sharks make me sad," it wouldn't erode my larger point. (Fusion and fission both take place in the sun, btw; again, you understand my point) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ryan. Posted December 3, 2010 Author Members Share Posted December 3, 2010 what turtle told you this? I thought that after I typed it... "Hmm... what if turtles have the universe 100% figured out..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reauchambeau Posted December 3, 2010 Members Share Posted December 3, 2010 Yet we know infinitely more about it than a turtle does. o rly? the oldest living turtle at the moment is 175 years old and still going. us superior humans have an average age of 75-80. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoboPimp Posted December 3, 2010 Members Share Posted December 3, 2010 you give humans far too much credit, we're destroying the planet. the most studied "intelligent" people on earth will tell you that we basically know nothing about the universe. the whole "humans are different and better than all other living things" just ties in with the rest of the ego driven ideas behind christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reauchambeau Posted December 3, 2010 Members Share Posted December 3, 2010 the whole "humans are different and better than all other living things" just ties in with the rest of the ego driven ideas behind christianity agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Poltergeist Posted December 3, 2010 Members Share Posted December 3, 2010 I thought that after I typed it... "Hmm... what if turtles have the universe 100% figured out..." they even may be close to transcendance, for all as i know.in the end enlightenment is acceptance of everything the way it is, and infinite humbleness about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members melx Posted December 3, 2010 Members Share Posted December 3, 2010 You don't see a fundamental distinction between us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ben_allison Posted December 3, 2010 Members Share Posted December 3, 2010 None of that means we somehow exist outside of nature in any way. Fantastic point; of course this is no conclusive proof of anything supernatural. I'm merely stating that there is an "otherness" to us that is very vastly separate from other species, and I do not thing I am in the minority here, regardless of creed. None of what I mentioned is proof of anything transcendent per se; nor did I say it was, though I certainly feel there are indications, and very real food for though. I was simply addressing Marmoset King's point, and demonstrating that it is essentially a non-argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoboPimp Posted December 3, 2010 Members Share Posted December 3, 2010 You're nit picking at the expense of my larger point and you know it. Our ability to interpret dolphin squeaks is irrelevant. Even if there were saying, "I love you and sharks make me sad," it wouldn't erode my larger point.(Fusion and fission both take place in the sun, btw; again, you understand my point) yes, lego your ego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ryan. Posted December 3, 2010 Author Members Share Posted December 3, 2010 Just gotta comment...Four pages in and still pretty civil. I think HCFX deserves a cookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoboPimp Posted December 3, 2010 Members Share Posted December 3, 2010 Fantastic point; of course this is no conclusive proof of anything supernatural. I'm merely stating that there is an "otherness" to us that is very vastly separate from other species, and I do not thing I am in the minority here, regardless of creed. yes, humans are different than other living things... every living thing has its own "otherness" it's your ego that makes you feel your "otherness" is better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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