Members crohny Posted January 14, 2012 Members Share Posted January 14, 2012 All of a sudden when I roll back the volume to kill the signal on my SG, it doesn't kill the signal. {censored}ed pot or something else? Any and all suggestions would be rad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TomCray Posted January 14, 2012 Members Share Posted January 14, 2012 Perhaps {censored}ed, maybe a bad solder joint. Iirc this happened to my mustang when I forgot to ground the third terminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members THAT4301 Posted January 14, 2012 Members Share Posted January 14, 2012 Yeah, probably lost a ground somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crohny Posted January 14, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 14, 2012 Word, I'll give the grounds a look over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Angry Tele Posted January 14, 2012 Members Share Posted January 14, 2012 weird this happened to me just last night. Volume and tone stopped working. I checked all the wiring and its all pretty solid, I cut a few ends off and made sure nothing was touching/shorting out and its all better now. I think because its a Tele and Im using a 4way switch and everything is crammed in the cavity stuff was touching or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crohny Posted January 14, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 14, 2012 Word. I know it's not the joint for the lead from the pickup and the cap. Put a new cap in last night and redid the joints. Still did nothing. Have to check the grounds. Seems like the issue. Tone pot still works though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members THAT4301 Posted January 15, 2012 Members Share Posted January 15, 2012 got a multimeter son? If not it's always the right time to buy a multimeter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crohny Posted January 15, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 15, 2012 got a multimeter son? If not it's always the right time to buy a multimeter. That'll have to wait till Friday when I get paid. For now I'll have to wing it and just re solder all the ground joints and what not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Angry Tele Posted January 15, 2012 Members Share Posted January 15, 2012 i never understood how a pot dies. Ive taken them apart and its literally a strip of carbon and a metal wiper. how does that get "fried"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crohny Posted January 15, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 15, 2012 i never understood how a pot dies. Ive taken them apart and its literally a strip of carbon and a metal wiper. how does that get "fried"? I think it has to do with turning them more so than using them. That is the only logical thing unless you do when I did the first tiem I tried to put pots in a guitar and keep the soldering iron on the pot too long. That will ruin a pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crohny Posted January 15, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 15, 2012 Re-soldered some joints and it's working properly again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CodeMonk Posted January 15, 2012 Members Share Posted January 15, 2012 i never understood how a pot dies. Ive taken them apart and its literally a strip of carbon and a metal wiper. how does that get "fried"? The metal contact gets dirty, the carbon wears out, the fiberglass that the carbon is bonded to cracks (Most common reason for failure I have run across).I have seen all of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 The metal contact gets dirty, the carbon wears out, the fiberglass that the carbon is bonded to cracks (Most common reason for failure I have run across).I have seen all of those. Yup - good post, and all true. Pots are a physical / mechanical control, and anything mechanical can wear and eventually fail. Another very common cause of potentiometer failure (or crackling / noise / intermittent operation) is fouling by foreign objects - mainly dirt and dust. With non-sealed pots, stuff eventually works their way into them and causes problems... and in most cases, a quick squirt of Caig DeOxit or similar contact cleaner can flush that out, improve conductivity, and make your pot work silently again. It's not going to fix a worn-out pot, but it will clean out and fix a dirty one. Sometimes worn-out pots can be "rebuilt" too, but that's more often done with vintage pots so the guitar can stay as "original" as possible while remaining functional. It's generally much easier to just replace one if it's bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members THAT4301 Posted January 15, 2012 Members Share Posted January 15, 2012 Another one; the insides can get coated with tobacco tar over many years (mostly an issue with open switches like in strats, that one) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Angry Tele Posted January 15, 2012 Members Share Posted January 15, 2012 a good trick if you dont wanna buy a new pot and its got tons of solder on it is take it apart, and then you can hit it with a solder gun and debraid wire as much as you want-or better yet just sand/wire brush off the old solder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Naterel Posted January 15, 2012 Members Share Posted January 15, 2012 You play heavy music, show some pride. Don't roll back the volume knob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crohny Posted January 15, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 15, 2012 a good trick if you dont wanna buy a new pot and its got tons of solder on it is take it apart, and then you can hit it with a solder gun and debraid wire as much as you want-or better yet just sand/wire brush off the old solder. Sounds more complicated than putting new pots in. Ha. Also, my bass player brought this up about dipping pots in some sort of wax or epoxy or some {censored}. can anyone shed some light on this? Was told it's suppose to reduce noise in the pots. Any information or links on DIY pot dipping {censored} would be rad for the next time I put some pots in one of my guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mhuxtable Posted January 15, 2012 Members Share Posted January 15, 2012 this just happened to me today!!! my silver sparkle jag fell over, now the bridge volume pot doesn't work properly....only reduces volume by about 30-40%. i think the fall shook some of my shoddy solder work loose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members THAT4301 Posted January 15, 2012 Members Share Posted January 15, 2012 Sounds more complicated than putting new pots in. Ha. Also, my bass player brought this up about dipping pots in some sort of wax or epoxy or some {censored}. can anyone shed some light on this? Was told it's suppose to reduce noise in the pots. Any information or links on DIY pot dipping {censored} would be rad for the next time I put some pots in one of my guitars. If you're going to dip it in melted wax you might as well not put it in there since it won't turn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Naterel Posted January 15, 2012 Members Share Posted January 15, 2012 If you're going to dip it in melted wax you might as well not put it in there since it won't turn Should of went with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crohny Posted January 15, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 15, 2012 If you're going to dip it in melted wax you might as well not put it in there since it won't turn Dude, I don't know what he was talking about. Hence why I asked. Also common sense would say if this was a viable option with a beneficial outcome you wouldn't dip more than the body of the pot to a point to avoid getting wax or whatever the {censored} you'd use to dip them in in the pot itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crohny Posted January 15, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 15, 2012 Should of went with it It's a pretty safe assumption from every post I have ever read from you that you are far more pointless of a poster than I am on here. Also, terrible at trolling and being an asshole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Naterel Posted January 15, 2012 Members Share Posted January 15, 2012 Everybodys going to be happy tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members THAT4301 Posted January 15, 2012 Members Share Posted January 15, 2012 Dude, I don't know what he was talking about. Hence why I asked. Also common sense would say if this was a viable option with a beneficial outcome you wouldn't dip more than the body of the pot to a point to avoid getting wax or whatever the {censored} you'd use to dip them in in the pot itself. TO BE FAIR There are holes in some pot bodies for cleaning them out with. If you blocked those holes in a reversible manner that might help. (dust always gets in somehow though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Angry Tele Posted January 15, 2012 Members Share Posted January 15, 2012 Gibson used to sheild thier pots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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