Members OMTerria Posted March 6, 2012 Members Share Posted March 6, 2012 I've been listening to clips of the Fulltone Soul Bender and I like what I'm hearing. I've been completely ignorant of the circuit until noe. What up with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hiwatt Bob Posted March 6, 2012 Members Share Posted March 6, 2012 Musicground are {censored}ing crooks--but this vid kind of shows the differences in tone benders: [video=youtube;y_psPieIliQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_psPieIliQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mmolteratx Posted March 6, 2012 Members Share Posted March 6, 2012 Short Answer: You need all of them. Long Answer: You need all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OMTerria Posted March 6, 2012 Author Members Share Posted March 6, 2012 The 1, 2, and 3 sounded pretty cool. The in between ones I didn't care for too much. I'm guessing pedals like the Tone Reaper and Soul Bender are MK3 versions then? Who makes a good 1 or 2 for about that price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mmolteratx Posted March 6, 2012 Members Share Posted March 6, 2012 There's only one "in between" model, along with a bunch of rare prototypes/oddities. The MK1.5 is very similar to a Fuzz Face, smaller input cap and slightly different biasing on Q1 IIRC. Then there's the 1, 2, 3 and 4. 4 is just an evolution of the 3 that's smoother. The Tone Reaper is a hybrid MKIII, Soul Bender is a Ge MKIII. Nobody makes a good 1 for that price, AFAIK. Dunno about 2s. I've got boards for both but I'm kinda busy ATM. If you want to have a go at building on yourself, I can send you some boards and transistors for the MKII, just the board for the MKI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members trainbridge Posted March 6, 2012 Members Share Posted March 6, 2012 MkII tonebender is early led zep tones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kid_A Posted March 6, 2012 Members Share Posted March 6, 2012 I prefer them over Big Muffs for walls of sound... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Player99 Posted March 6, 2012 Members Share Posted March 6, 2012 I thought the vid was lame but he won when he turned all the pedals on at once at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mozart82 Posted March 6, 2012 Members Share Posted March 6, 2012 check out Tim stuff from Faceless FX... really great handbuild Tone Benders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuitarSlim101 Posted March 6, 2012 Members Share Posted March 6, 2012 The Tonebender is my favorite fuzz circuit that I've tried. I've got an early BYOC Tonebender eyelet board kit, which I believe is a MKII, but I could very well be wrong. I added an external bias pot and changed a few resistors to get some more output...which it didn't really need, but it's a loud little bastard now. Depending on the pickups and bias setting, it goes anywhere from early Zep and Sabbath tones to Magic Potion era Black Keys () and gets into spitty, velcro-y fuzz at the more extreme settings. Sounds wonderful into a 5E3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Aaron SS Posted March 6, 2012 Members Share Posted March 6, 2012 Buy my MK II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hiwatt Bob Posted March 6, 2012 Members Share Posted March 6, 2012 Buy my MK1.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Aaron SS Posted March 6, 2012 Members Share Posted March 6, 2012 Damnit, Bob. Really though Tonebenders rule. Super dynamic with a really squishy sound when you dig into the strings hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hiwatt Bob Posted March 6, 2012 Members Share Posted March 6, 2012 My beef is that MKII's don't seem to have nearly enough output. Kind of wimpy--I want my fuzzes to have some boost not just sustain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OMTerria Posted March 6, 2012 Author Members Share Posted March 6, 2012 Well I liked the MK3 the most so I'd probably go with one of those first. Sorry Bob, not as much a fan of the 1.5's from the clips I've heard so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Aaron SS Posted March 6, 2012 Members Share Posted March 6, 2012 My beef is that MKII's don't seem to have nearly enough output. Kind of wimpy--I want my fuzzes to have some boost not just sustain. When I made mine I followed a DIY websites suggestion (http://fuzzcentral.ssguitar.com/mkII.php) of swapping a resistor for a higher value that resulted in more output volume. I'll post my modded version since it's my personal one (aka not spam ) : Also added a bias that basically works like a tone control - bias down it's super fat and bias up it has a thinner sound. Lately it would be a huge tossup between the MK II and the Buzzaround for my favorite fuzz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hiwatt Bob Posted March 6, 2012 Members Share Posted March 6, 2012 Well I liked the MK3 the most so I'd probably go with one of those first. Sorry Bob, not as much a fan of the 1.5's from the clips I've heard so far. Here's a demo I did that shows how the mkii and mk1.5 compare against a fuzz face. [video=youtube;rC6UeWUKApo] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hiwatt Bob Posted March 6, 2012 Members Share Posted March 6, 2012 What trannies did you use Aaron? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Aaron SS Posted March 6, 2012 Members Share Posted March 6, 2012 AC128/AC128/AC125 combo that I measured to recommended specs. Worked like a champ first time out and is an absolute beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gae86 Posted March 6, 2012 Members Share Posted March 6, 2012 I love tonebenders!! The best fuzz in the world! I need them all! If you need some help, these are some of the benders I had:[video=youtube;KOiaABsoOOo] [video=youtube;zlz0lGdbfYg] [video=youtube;kFOVHwYu1nU] [video=youtube;rqQEPEYYNR0] [video=youtube;ZPYCHmRUiuY] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Snufkino Posted March 6, 2012 Members Share Posted March 6, 2012 Have you made any demo's/clips of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Aaron SS Posted March 6, 2012 Members Share Posted March 6, 2012 Have you made any demo's/clips of that? No, I haven't. I can make something tonight and post it here though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Snufkino Posted March 6, 2012 Members Share Posted March 6, 2012 No, I haven't. I can make something tonight and post it here though. A Tone Bender mk.1 or 2 has been on my 'to buy' list forever. Sounds like mk.2 might be the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nightraven Posted March 6, 2012 Members Share Posted March 6, 2012 The 1, 2, and 3 sounded pretty cool. The in between ones I didn't care for too much. I'm guessing pedals like the Tone Reaper and Soul Bender are MK3 versions then? Who makes a good 1 or 2 for about that price? the only "in between" pedal in that demo is the MkI.5. as much as "Just Nick" wants to believe it - there is no difference between those two Professional MkII pedals other than the labels on the transistors. Sola Sound built all the Professional MkII TB pedals (including OEM variants) with OC75, OC81D and Impex S3-1T transistors. the guy doing those demo vids is preaching to the TGP sheep that there are two different Tone Bender MkII versions, which is B.S. and is just adding more confusion to the already very foggy lineage of those pedals. IMO the best Tone Bender is the SupaFuzz MkI (not featured in that comparison video because MG can't get their hands on an original to clone ) - check it out on Youtube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mmolteratx Posted March 6, 2012 Members Share Posted March 6, 2012 And you, sell me that Flesh Head. :poke: And since we're posting pics now, here's one that I did in a small run over on TGP. And then the big boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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