Phil O'Keefe Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share Posted November 13, 2012 Originally Posted by ambient Also 1/4" jacks can be easily repaired, how about USB? Depends on how they implemented it, but I suspect it's not easily user-serviceable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BrentMpls Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 Unless I'm missing something this has USB -and- standard 1/4 jack, does it not? So if you are messing around at home, or want to play "live" through your iDevice/Computer the option is there. Should be standard really, on modern style instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BrentMpls Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 Originally Posted by ambient Also 1/4" jacks can be easily repaired, how about USB? If you can repair a 1/4" instrument cable you can repair a USB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OrangeLazarus Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 i'd hit it. but only if it can do midi. but i'm too lazy to read all specs to see if it can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share Posted November 13, 2012 Originally Posted by OrangeLazarus i'd hit it. but only if it can do midi. but i'm too lazy to read all specs to see if it can. I would suspect not - not without some sort of software pitch to MIDI conversion, and I imagine that even if someone developed such an app, it would be mono only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members omni Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 Wow.. Is this the wave of the future. I will always be a purist. Analog baby!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cirrus Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 Originally Posted by macadood ...but for like $20 you can buy a faux iRig and BOOM youre just as connected to your iphone/ipad... Except that I have one of those and it's actually totally {censored} - noisy, terrible digital ticking noises, and horrible feedback with the gain beyond moderate amounts. Wish I'd got something more expensive and less {censored}. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members macadood Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 Originally Posted by Cirrus Except that I have one of those and it's actually totally {censored} - noisy, terrible digital ticking noises, and horrible feedback with the gain beyond moderate amounts. Wish I'd got something more expensive and less {censored}. mine's fine not a single one of those problems. there's no reason it should be noisy or digital or feedbacky...mine's a direct iRig clone, even says iRig on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members macadood Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 Originally Posted by BrentMpls If you can repair a 1/4" instrument cable you can repair a USB. agreed. its pretty much teh same concept, just a jack with however many pins you gotta replace in place of the broken one. sure probably more annoying than just a 1/4'' jack but still easily doable. and i doubt you could really break the jack part too easily, maybe snap off the male usb part inside the female jack in the guitar, but then its just a matter of pulling it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hotmess Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 Originally Posted by Phil O'Keefe I would suspect not - not without some sort of software pitch to MIDI conversion, and I imagine that even if someone developed such an app, it would be mono only. What is it with people's fascination of something doing MIDI anyways? I can't think of a single reason why I would want a guitar that is capable of that. Not to mention that MIDI is really becoming obsolete anyways, and I suspect OSC will be the new normal within the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tape Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 Originally Posted by BrentMpls If you can repair a 1/4" instrument cable you can repair a USB. Well, the problem is that 99 times out of 100, USB jacks are soldered directly on a PCB due to high-speed constraints. Banging the guitar around (with the whole weight of the guitar behind the force) with a USB jack plugged in will put immense strain on the PCB itself, probably eventually cracking it and/or lifting traces. It wouldn't just be a broken USB jack you'd have to deal with, but a broken PCB, and possibly lifting/cracking the BGA/SMD devices that would inevitably be mounted as close as possible to the jack as well. It gets out of the realm of DIY servicing quite rapidly, unless you're lucky. Plugging a USB jack right into the gutiar instead of designing a quality 1/4-USB box attached to the iPad tells me they just want to sell a whole guitar. A 1/4-USB box probably isn't profitable or marketable enough, and certainly isn't as flashy as a whole guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BrentMpls Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 Originally Posted by hotmess What is it with people's fascination of something doing MIDI anyways? I can't think of a single reason why I would want a guitar that is capable of that. Not to mention that MIDI is really becoming obsolete anyways, and I suspect OSC will be the new normal within the next few years. /agree; +1; what he said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members caeman Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 The future is here, baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BrentMpls Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 Originally Posted by tape Well, the problem is that 99 times out of 100, USB jacks are soldered directly on a PCB due to high-speed constraints. Banging the guitar around (with the whole weight of the guitar behind the force) with a USB jack plugged in will put immense strain on the PCB itself, probably eventually cracking it and/or lifting traces. It wouldn't just be a broken USB jack you'd have to deal with, but a broken PCB, and possibly lifting/cracking the BGA/SMD devices that would inevitably be mounted as close as possible to the jack as well. It gets out of the realm of DIY servicing quite rapidly, unless you're lucky. Yup, USB cable design is more fragile than 1/4" instrument cable. But it looks like it still says the 1/4 connector, and the USB would be used for recording, or I suppose, live performance if you wanted to run through a computer/iDevice live, and in which case thrashing around would run such a risk. Originally Posted by tape Plugging a USB jack right into the gutiar instead of designing a quality 1/4-USB box attached to the iPad tells me they just want to sell a whole guitar. A 1/4-USB box probably isn't profitable or marketable enough, and certainly isn't as flashy as a whole guitar. Well it looks like the same company that makes the 1/4-USB box is advertised in the link, and that option has been available for a while now. Having both seems like a handy option ~shrug~ The problem of course being this isn't standard on every guitar, and you would have to purchase THIS guitar (right now anyway) to have that connivence and avoid having to carry around a 1/4-USB box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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