Members Juan B Posted June 19, 2005 Members Share Posted June 19, 2005 hey! just got a tube zipper! and searched the forum for tipos and readed the whole thread... anyone use it with bass? i play bass so i dont know if the settings here will work, but ill try them anyway, and correct settinmg to work for me.... so, for just envelope filter i have to set the drive at 0? and for just distortion i have to set the sens at 0? i have another question, the envelope creates an peak that raises in a freq range and them goes down again, right? when in "up" mode, does it goes jut up? or first up and then down? (same with "down" mode) also, i couldnt get what the tron/trill switch does, can anyone explein it? were i can find technicall information?, for example in what frequency range it the res and freq knob work? since im using lower frequencys i need to take this in consideration... thancks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members puretube Posted June 19, 2005 Members Share Posted June 19, 2005 for bass, I recommend setting the input gain very low... for just env, & just dist: like you wrote... in "up"-mode, it moves up, then down... in "down"-mode: first down, then up... (in both cases, it starts and finishes at the frequency set by the "frequency" pot) (i.e.: for "up", you usually set it to a lower freq., and for "down" you set it to a higher freq., when you want a large "sway"). "Tron" is the usual envelope-following, "Trill" will re-trigger itself according to the envelope of the already filtered signal, which works best at high "resonance" settings... The designer (me) has never provided technical measurements... (to let the user`s ears be the personal judge). Be aware: even small movements on the knobs can make big differents in sound... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juan B Posted June 22, 2005 Members Share Posted June 22, 2005 Originally posted by puretube for bass, I recommend setting the input gain very low...for just env, & just dist: like you wrote...in "up"-mode, it moves up, then down...in "down"-mode: first down, then up...(in both cases, it starts and finishes at the frequency set by the "frequency" pot) (i.e.: for "up", you usually set it to a lower freq., and for "down" you set it to a higher freq., when you want a large "sway")."Tron" is the usual envelope-following,"Trill" will re-trigger itself according to the envelope of the already filtered signal, which works best at high "resonance" settings...The designer (me) has never provided technical measurements...(to let the user`s ears be the personal judge).Be aware: even small movements on the knobs can make big differents in sound... some more questions.... so what is "very low" for the input? almost at zero? maybe i shoul put distortion and sens at 0, and then adjust the input and out so they match the bypassed signal, and then start from there..... and tips here? is it better to put a compressor before or after the unit? so it starts from the freq that i set and goes either up or down and then returns to the freq, but how far does the peaks goes? is this determined by the RES? or the RES determinesd the Q of the peak? i readed in other place that the TRILL acts acording to the TRON plus a modulation envelop added, so why the RES has to do anything to do here? thancks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members puretube Posted June 22, 2005 Members Share Posted June 22, 2005 yes, very low is fully ccw (IIRC, fully to left is not completely off)... yes, drive & sens. all the way down, while "frequency" should be set between ~8 and ~11 o`clock - choose the input gain now so that it doesn`t distort - match the volume to the bypassed signal now by adjusting the "master vol.". Now you can check out, whether the "sens." allows sweeping wide enough, when turned rightwards... (to check the widest possible sweep, turn the "freq" knob all the way down, with "env" in the "up-mode", or "freq" fully right, with "env" in the "down-mode"). Note: in "Tron"- mode, the "sensitivity" is directly responding to the input-signal, i.e.: it can be influenced with the guitar`s vol-pot; while in "Trill" - mode, the "sensitivity" and hence the modulation envelope gets influenced by the "input-gain", by the "resonance", and by the position of the "freq." knobs, in addition to the guitar`s volume... The "resonance" determines the "sharpness" of the filtered sound ("Q" - up to self-oscillation), and therefore features higher (smallband) volumes, when set high; this adds to the influence on the "Trill"- modulation envelope, and makes it more pronounced... The "sensitivity"- knob determines how far the peaks can go, maximally. (for both directions). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ayumi Posted July 6, 2005 Members Share Posted July 6, 2005 This thread needs more bumping cause I'm getting one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members herbs Posted July 25, 2005 Members Share Posted July 25, 2005 Bump Im going to give some of these settings a crack tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members puretube Posted September 13, 2005 Members Share Posted September 13, 2005 Originally posted by ayumi This thread needs more bumping cause I'm getting one. got it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dZjupp Posted October 10, 2005 Members Share Posted October 10, 2005 ok, ok. i'm thinking of running two tube zippers in a row maybe with a tube screamer or pulsar in between. woudl the filter of the first one react to the second one in a weird modulated kind of way? ...plus this thread deserves a noteworthy bump...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members puretube Posted October 10, 2005 Members Share Posted October 10, 2005 nope - but the 2nd one would enjoy a tremolo morethan a distortion in front.Watch your mind, if you`re routing the first one (via a splitter or Y-cable) into a 2nd amp for stereo, and having one go up, and the other go down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members puretube Posted November 9, 2005 Members Share Posted November 9, 2005 tried 2 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ayumi Posted November 9, 2005 Members Share Posted November 9, 2005 Originally posted by puretube got it? Yeah it's awesome. I've played like 7 shows using it as a funkified solo boost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members puretube Posted December 21, 2005 Members Share Posted December 21, 2005 rumour has it,the new "Flanger Hoax" has been designedwhile playing the Tube Zipper as an in-front-distortion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members joe_lechuza Posted December 21, 2005 Members Share Posted December 21, 2005 Rumour has it, that my Tube Zipper has broken. Official sources confirm this.The powerpack has inexplicably broke, even though its been in its box for months. And yes, it worked before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members t-odd Posted January 23, 2006 Members Share Posted January 23, 2006 I'm wondering if anyone has experimented with 12at7's or 5751's or different brands or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members puretube Posted January 23, 2006 Members Share Posted January 23, 2006 whaddaya expect from them? I wouldn`t do it - can`t recommend... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members t-odd Posted January 23, 2006 Members Share Posted January 23, 2006 Several years back, I had a couple of the Chandler tube drivers. I found the full-blown 12 ax7 distortion to be a bit nasal, and fizzy. I kind of have the same impression of the tube zipper. When I lowered the gain on the tube drivers by switching to 5751s or 12at7 it created a rounder warmer distortion, more reminescent of octal pre-amp tubes or power tubes. The only downside is that you lose a little bit of volume and a less agressive top to gain and drive. Shouldn't hurt the unit. I'd throw them in right now but i can't find them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members puretube Posted January 23, 2006 Members Share Posted January 23, 2006 will degrade the filter function, afaic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members puretube Posted April 28, 2006 Members Share Posted April 28, 2006 Originally posted by joe_lechuza Rumour has it, that my Tube Zipper has broken. Official sources confirm this. The powerpack has inexplicably broke, even though its been in its box for months. And yes, it worked before. fixed by now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members joe_lechuza Posted April 28, 2006 Members Share Posted April 28, 2006 i've only found one place in the UK that sells the PSU, ironically this is the same place I bought it from. However the shop is closed due to some easter hiatus, and i've had no spare cash to buy the new PSU. Hopefully the shop will be open by now!question: has anyone used one with a clean boost (e.g zvex SHO) to goose the signal into more mayhem?it makes it go a little crazier with an EQ or fuzz, but any feedback would be cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members joe_lechuza Posted May 13, 2006 Members Share Posted May 13, 2006 yay! tis fixed now. new power supply. it works so much better with my new 72 telecaster and slimmed down setup! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members puretube Posted June 26, 2006 Members Share Posted June 26, 2006 joe: great new avatar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members puretube Posted September 22, 2006 Members Share Posted September 22, 2006 bump for CHOUTMUSIC YES - This IS the official TUBE ZIPPER Lounge ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SpectralJulian Posted September 22, 2006 Members Share Posted September 22, 2006 Anyone want to yousendit some rock songs they have done with the tube zipper? Preferably on one of the more over the top settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members puretube Posted September 22, 2006 Members Share Posted September 22, 2006 just f.t.r.: that clip in the other thread does contain the Tube-Zipper`s prototype sounds, amongst others... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CHOUTMUSIC Posted September 24, 2006 Members Share Posted September 24, 2006 Originally posted by SpectralJulian Anyone want to yousendit some rock songs they have done with the tube zipper? Preferably on one of the more over the top settings. once I get the net at home i'll have to post some clips, mang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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