Members Awake77 Posted April 7, 2009 Members Share Posted April 7, 2009 I have the same studio desk the guy that brutalized his virus does, and it sucks. Totally off topic, but I'm just putting it out there:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AfroRouge Posted April 8, 2009 Members Share Posted April 8, 2009 With modularity without a dedicated UI, a lot of corners have to be cut in terms of what's possible in the synth. A highly conventional routing is probably dictated by the format, unless a software editor is in the cards to delve deeper - but then the interactions between the software and hardware probably require a lot of internal circuitry that raises costs, especially to accommodate expansion (purely guesswork on my non-engineer part, of course). I think Dave Smith has managed to find a good middle ground with the Evolver, which achieves a pretty low price point but has enough routing flexibility to keep things interesting for people who know what they're doing with a synth. Still needs the editing matrix, however, which is very difficult to implement on consumer controllers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members girevik Posted April 8, 2009 Members Share Posted April 8, 2009 The fact that it's useless without a computer running the last OS it has drivers for is a big downside. An expensive piece of hardware dependant on a particular computer platform and OS is "obsolescence in a box". Unless you got the hardware at a great discount. True, you will need a computer running an OS not later than the last version of Windows Vista/Mac OSX that Clavia officially released an editor and drivers for. That is, until somebody creates an open source version of the G2 Editor, just like somebody created Nomad/NMEdit to replace the original Nord Modular Editor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members idiotboy Posted April 8, 2009 Members Share Posted April 8, 2009 That is, until somebody creates an open source version of the G2 Editor, just like somebody created Nomad/NMEdit to replace the original Nord Modular Editor Screw open source... Puppeh: there's another opportunity for you. Write a new G2 editor and sell it. :thu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ElectricPuppy Posted April 8, 2009 Author Members Share Posted April 8, 2009 Since I write software for PC's all day, writing yet more software for a PC is *not* my idea of relaxation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members girevik Posted April 8, 2009 Members Share Posted April 8, 2009 How about an editor for Da Pup's box that runs on iPhone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Real MC Posted April 8, 2009 Members Share Posted April 8, 2009 Obrerheim's Marion synths where a miserable failure Oberheim Matrix-1000 synths did quite well, thank you very much :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Real MC Posted April 8, 2009 Members Share Posted April 8, 2009 I think the concept of a polyphonic module is a good one. Lots of remote editors out there. Frankly it is a PITA editing a module in a rack case, especially tweak-heavy stuff like polysynths. Look how many folks would love an A6 in a rack - and Alesis had one in the works until Numark took over. I am seriously considering gutting the voicecards of my OB-SX and shoehorning it in a 3u rack format with new processor board implementing remote editing and patch storage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ElectricPuppy Posted April 8, 2009 Author Members Share Posted April 8, 2009 An Andy-In-A-Box is pretty much my thinking, except no UI of its own, and expandable from just a few voices to a dozen or more. As has been pointed out, though, the hang-up might be in how to present a wide palette of mod routings to a common MIDI controller. I hate "scrolling" through source/destination selections via a knob. Worst use of a knob ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Meatball Fulton Posted April 8, 2009 Members Share Posted April 8, 2009 I often dream of a DSI Evolvery synth where you can start with one voice and continue to add voices as you wish.. Too bad for you they dropped the PolyEvo rack, because that's what that box was :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members angstwulf Posted April 9, 2009 Members Share Posted April 9, 2009 Too bad for you they dropped the PolyEvo rack, because that's what that box was :poke: ...I meant a knobby box... I do often think about an MEK and PER combo as an alternative/addition to my Virus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kooki_sf Posted April 9, 2009 Members Share Posted April 9, 2009 the trick to making it marketable would be to make the voice-card interface non proprietary. each voice card would be receiving control data either in digital or CV form, and would require some sort of input and output. in essence the host unit would just demux midi notes, and act as a digitally switched patch bay for the audio signals, so if you were to keep the interface between the voice cards and the host super standard, (1/4 inch TRS? xlr?) those extra slots that arent filled would be useable as midi to cv converters for other equipment, and would make the unit appeal even to those who wouldn't max out the slots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Woody4 Posted April 9, 2009 Members Share Posted April 9, 2009 Too bad for you they dropped the PolyEvo rack, because that's what that box was :poke: post 36 before someone mentioned it!!yes not expandableit should have been up to 8 voice!!! still looking to get one:thu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kooki_sf Posted April 9, 2009 Members Share Posted April 9, 2009 post 36 before someone mentioned it!! yes not expandable it should have been up to 8 voice!!! still looking to get one:thu: not expandable? what about the poly-chain function? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Woody4 Posted April 9, 2009 Members Share Posted April 9, 2009 not expandable? what about the poly-chain function? my guess is everyone agrees that expandable means adding options to the same unit as apposed to buying a second unit a few synths have the chain a second unit feature not sure why i'm explaining that but there you go...bone up:wave: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ElectricPuppy Posted April 9, 2009 Author Members Share Posted April 9, 2009 So, I think the conclusion here is that a few might find it attractive, but it probably would benefit from having a good, dedicated UI, in which case I guess it's been done (see: Andromeda, PEK, Matrix). Back to the drawing board! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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