Members Cougar Hunter Posted December 4, 2006 Members Share Posted December 4, 2006 Originally posted by Bassified Good analysis. Are KT88's less common in 50 to 100 watt tube amps then? Lol, I don't think I heard of that before (yeah, I'm kind of newb at tubes). yeah, because a pair is usually like 100+ watts.I use a quad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members yabba Posted December 4, 2006 Members Share Posted December 4, 2006 yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bassified Posted December 4, 2006 Author Members Share Posted December 4, 2006 Originally posted by guitarslinger yeah, because a pair is usually like 100+ watts. I use a quad. Oh okay.100 watts of tube....wow...that's....a lot....I can't imagine cranking those.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JohnRageOn Posted December 4, 2006 Members Share Posted December 4, 2006 Originally posted by guitarslinger yeah, because a pair is usually like 100+ watts. I use a quad. :D How's the preamp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cougar Hunter Posted December 4, 2006 Members Share Posted December 4, 2006 Originally posted by JohnRageOn :D How's the preamp? which one?the MP-1 abosulutely rips.the 3+ rips even more than the MP-1the Access is in the shop getting repairedthe Soldano 77 just sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stangme01 Posted December 4, 2006 Members Share Posted December 4, 2006 Originally posted by JohnRageOn IMHO these are the most common tubes and to my ears sound like this:EL84 - Lower wattage, breaks up early, mid ranged mostly.EL34 - Standard wattage, pronounced mids, bites as hell, generally musical tube, definition of British sound.6L6 - Standard wattage, pronounced bass and highs, very open sounding, less compressed, definition of American sound.KT88 - High wattage, great headroom, full and clean tube. very good description. you ever used KT77 or E34Ls? Wondering how those compare since i've never used these two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tonemeister87 Posted December 4, 2006 Members Share Posted December 4, 2006 This therad is teh ghey!11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JohnRageOn Posted December 5, 2006 Members Share Posted December 5, 2006 Originally posted by guitarslinger which one? the MP-1 abosulutely rips. the 3+ rips even more than the MP-1 the Access is in the shop getting repaired the Soldano 77 just sold. I meant 3+SE ! Glad you sold SP77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JohnRageOn Posted December 5, 2006 Members Share Posted December 5, 2006 Originally posted by Tonemeister87 This therad is teh ghey!11 Ghey Almighty!!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JohnRageOn Posted December 5, 2006 Members Share Posted December 5, 2006 Originally posted by stangme01 very good description. you ever used KT77 or E34Ls? Wondering how those compare since i've never used these two Unfortunately I've never used KT77, but I've heard an amp with EL34L but I didn't like this amp so I cannot make a judgment, but they must be similar to EL34.There's a trend putting KT77 on SLOs for some reason and they say the tube shares sonic characteristics from EL34 and 6L6, who knows. I would like to give them a try in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IcedEarthian Posted December 5, 2006 Members Share Posted December 5, 2006 so maxing out the chan vol is basically maxing out preamp disto? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wanky Posted December 5, 2006 Members Share Posted December 5, 2006 Originally posted by IcedEarthian so maxing out the chan vol is basically maxing out preamp disto? thats power amp, preamp is usually the "gain" knob, but both are techincally gain and volume knobs, one acts on the pre one on the power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IcedEarthian Posted December 5, 2006 Members Share Posted December 5, 2006 Originally posted by wanky thats power amp, preamp is usually the "gain" knob, but both are techincally gain and volume knobs, one acts on the pre one on the power. does the same rule apply for master vol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Darth Balls Posted December 5, 2006 Members Share Posted December 5, 2006 Originally posted by IcedEarthian does the same rule apply for master vol? Yup. Power amp distortion requires a loud volume period. Cranked up master volume AND any separate preamp volumes (not preamp gain) the amp may have, not just one or the other. Testing London Power power scaling soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members m4had Posted October 10, 2007 Members Share Posted October 10, 2007 Oh alrite.Still seems kind of complicated. I hope my fuses don't blow. It's like changing a light bulb. If you put a 5w bulb into a socket that held a 60w bulb, it's gonna blow. Otherwise, unscrew, screw, turn on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NixerX Posted October 10, 2007 Members Share Posted October 10, 2007 Clean cleans and Brutal gain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members etienne Posted October 10, 2007 Members Share Posted October 10, 2007 People use less power tube distorsion than they think, especially Marshall owners I like some power amp distorsion. On my 1959-SLP, most of the distorsion I get comes from the preampE- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Herald of Light Posted October 10, 2007 Members Share Posted October 10, 2007 Oh sweet Tonemeister, where art thou? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BadgerMolester Posted October 10, 2007 Members Share Posted October 10, 2007 Preamp. The power amp definetely adds a flavour but I try to avoid break-up. admittedly I do want to buy a lower wattage amp to play with at some point but that's not high on my list right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knucklefux Posted October 10, 2007 Members Share Posted October 10, 2007 i prefer the power section to be clean, with lots of headroom. that's why my amp has a KT88 power section:love: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grumphh Posted October 10, 2007 Members Share Posted October 10, 2007 People use less power tube distorsion than they think, especially Marshall owners I like some power amp distorsion. On my 1959-SLP, most of the distorsion I get comes from the preamp E- Exactly.Most people with 50 - 100 watters probably never get anywhere near power tube distortion. Although many think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members modalmood Posted September 16, 2009 Members Share Posted September 16, 2009 It is my understanding that preamp distortion comes from turning up the "volume" and keeping the "master volume" down low. Preamp distortion can be as quiet as you want depending on where the master volume is. Power tube distortion comes from cranking the amp up loud to the point where the power tubes break up. Am I understanding this correctly? I have a Fender Blues Junior Tweed NOS by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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