Members telephant Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by rub1off&tie1on I've got two, a Laney AOR series II 50watt head and a Rivera Hundred Duo 12. The Laney i just plug into the lower gain channel and slam it with an overdrive pedal, the Rivera i run clean, clean with overdrives, or straight into the Marshally channel. Personally I wouldnt use an attenuator with either of those amps. But if you can try one out, go for it, you may dig it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Digital Jams Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by rub1off&tie1on I've got two, a Laney AOR series II 50watt head and a Rivera Hundred Duo 12. The Laney i just plug into the lower gain channel and slam it with an overdrive pedal, the Rivera i run clean, clean with overdrives, or straight into the Marshally channel. Slamming the front end of a high gain amp will get you some pretty tasty recorded tones for sure at tv type volumes, lots of guys here do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members code_blue Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by telephant Mother{censored}er was used in jest and if that wasnt obvious I dont know what to tell you. As for the rest of that, I think you're full of {censored}. I think you know I am correct, and now you feel dumb for being exposed as a "know it all" wannabe. Thats what I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Digital Jams Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by code_blue I think you know I am correct, and now you feel dumb for being exposed as a "know it all" wannabe. Thats what I think. Little bedroom wackoff artist says what?????? You figure out how to make your fishtank quiet yet by asking the metal heads here??? My fishtank is keeping me up after wacking off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members code_blue Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by Digital Jams Little bedroom wackoff artist says what?????? You figure out how to make your fishtank quiet yet by asking the metal heads here??? My fishtank is keeping me up after wacking off "the House of Metal CT chapter"LOL!That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Erocku Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by telephant dude people have been micing amps at full volume for years!!! Thats not going to blow a mic up. And attenuator will only make your tone worse IMO. If you're abgle to turn your amp up, turn it up. Makes infinitely more sense than using an attenuator IMO. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members telephant Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by code_blue I think you know I am correct, and now you feel dumb for being exposed as a "know it all" wannabe. Thats what I think. LOL You're right. Im such a {censored}ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members code_blue Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by telephant LOL You're right. Im such a {censored}ass. I hope someone that hates you puts that in their sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members telephant Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by code_blue I hope someone that hates you puts that in their sig. Me too. That way I can finally get the humiliation I so justly deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jimlp Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Instead of wasting $300+ on an attenuater buy this for alittle more, it will most likely sound better recorded as well.http://zvexamps.com/amp_view.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AMSnell Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 That little Zvex has TONE!!But, on the real, I will tell you whats the nicest cheapest piece of equipment I've ever used.....Its f*cking amazing! I dont know why it doesnt get more recognition. I took it apart and modded it to be used with an 8 ohm cab (basically screwed in a jack and wired each of the correct speaker cables too it) and when you plug it into a good speaker, its AWESOME!Proper JCM-800 tone, no joke.Boosted its Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members telephant Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by AMSnell That little Zvex has TONE!! But, on the real, I will tell you whats the nicest cheapest piece of equipment I've ever used..... Its f*cking amazing! I dont know why it doesnt get more recognition. I took it apart and modded it to be used with an 8 ohm cab (basically screwed in a jack and wired each of the correct speaker cables too it) and when you plug it into a good speaker, its AWESOME! Proper JCM-800 tone, no joke. Boosted its I dont if this is sarcastic but Vlad actually posted clips of that amp boosted with an Sd-1 and it sounded pretty {censored}ing good!!! I know that sounds hard to believe so let me see if I can dig up the clip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members telephant Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by telephant I dont if this is sarcastic but Vlad actually posted clips of that amp boosted with an Sd-1 and it sounded pretty {censored}ing good!!! I know that sounds hard to believe so let me see if I can dig up the clip. its on this page:http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=118393Scroll down to the one called mini marshall. not a bad lead tone for what it is eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AMSnell Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Haha nope wasnt sarcastic, I really did all that stuff and its downstairs sitting with a 1x12 V30 plugged into it, its beastly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OverDriven Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by telephant its on this page: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=118393Scroll down to the one called mini marshall. not a bad lead tone for what it is eh? Holy {censored}! That sounds great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AMSnell Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by OverDriven Holy {censored}! That sounds great! Sounds 100x better with a bigger speaker! I wanna try it with a 4x12 but I dont have an 8ohm cab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OverDriven Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by AMSnell Sounds 100x better with a bigger speaker! I wanna try it with a 4x12 but I dont have an 8ohm cab Does it 100% have to be 8 ohm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members telephant Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by OverDriven Does it 100% have to be 8 ohm? Well since its a SS amp Id think, no. But I dont know for sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AMSnell Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Well the speaker it was wired too was 8 ohm, so I just assumed the jack would have to have an 8 ohm speaker attached to balande the load. I guess you could use a 16 ohm....wait.....holy {censored} I didnt think of that! *runs off to try* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ed DeGenaro Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by telephant And for the record Ive recorded my Superbass full up with the mic right on the grill, let alone two inches away... As well as many, many, many other amps. Ive never heard of a mic blowing up from micing a speaker cabinet. Well, ribbon mics prior to the Royer were noroious for how fragile they were. I also wouldn't want to run something like a U87 in front of a cranked JMP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ed DeGenaro Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by telephant dude people have been micing amps at full volume for years!!! Thats not going to blow a mic up. And attenuator will only make your tone worse IMO. If you're abgle to turn your amp up, turn it up. Makes infinitely more sense than using an attenuator IMO. I so do not agree...but since THD is paying my bills I won't argue it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members telephant Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by Ed DeGenaro I so do not agree...but since THD is paying my bills I won't argue it. Well if its between playing my amp as it was meant to be, at full volume, and using an attenuator, Ill play at full volume every time. Also, every master volume amp Ive tried the hotplate with sounded I dont care if THD is paying your bills, Id like to hear your opinion on the matter! Seriously, if volume is not an issue, why would you want to use an attenuator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ed DeGenaro Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by telephant Well if its between playing my amp as it was meant to be, at full volume, and using an attenuator, Ill play at full volume every time. Also, every master volume amp Ive tried the hotplate with sounded I dont care if THD is paying your bills, Id like to hear your opinion on the matter! Seriously, if volume is not an issue, why would you want to use an attenuator? kay...I dunno about the "meant to be" part. marshall's big slogan back in the day was that they didn't distort. So meant to be is really not applicable.And yes in a perfect world nothing beats a cranked amp. However, and this is what I don't dig. You crank an amp and certain things don't gel...you get more of a mess from ghost notes, the speakers scream, yada, yada, yada. There's a happy medium in everything, and for me it's having the amp at a volume where it doesn't want to run away when I take my hands off the fretboard, or sounds like a white noise generator inbetween notes.Also, I have a Soldano, VHT and Recto that I way prefer in my typical set-up that includes the Hot Plate because it lets me do what i need to.And regardless of whether something is pre-amp gain only or not, everything sounds better when all components do some of the work.Can I work without a Hot plate? Hell, yeah. Do I? Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members telephant Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by Ed DeGenaro kay... I dunno about the "meant to be" part. marshall's big slogan back in the day was that they didn't distort. So meant to be is really not applicable. Yeah but you know what I meant. I mean whats more glorious than a cranked JMP? You crank an amp and certain things don't gel...you get more of a mess from ghost notes, the speakers scream, yada, yada, yada. There's a happy medium in everything, and for me it's having the amp at a volume where it doesn't want to run away when I take my hands off the fretboard, or sounds like a white noise generator inbetween notes. Some damn fine points here and nothing I can really even argue. I mean, you're right. i guess the big thing for me is the hotplate changes the way the amp feels, and to me, it seem to rob punch. Can I work without a Hot plate? Hell, yeah. Do I? Nope. Would you use a hotplate with a VH4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ed DeGenaro Posted January 3, 2007 Members Share Posted January 3, 2007 Originally posted by telephant Yeah but you know what I meant. I mean whats more glorious than a cranked JMP? Some damn fine points here and nothing I can really even argue. I mean, you're right. i guess the big thing for me is the hotplate changes the way the amp feels, and to me, it seem to rob punch. Would you use a hotplate with a VH4? That's not the Hot Plate but lack of volume (SPL), amp/speaker interaction, and no room compression.Would I use a VH4 without one? Depends. If I used it the way I did in Austin which was clean, clean with a pedal board...then absolutely. Since with that set-up I usually prefer it to not break up at all. Heck I'm still thinking of getting an SVT to use with my pedal board. If I use it with the gain channels then yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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