Members fatfat Posted January 6, 2009 Members Share Posted January 6, 2009 Heh, I have it set to 50. Less clicking that way.I'm at 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ed_sped2 Posted January 6, 2009 Members Share Posted January 6, 2009 I think the first one is the modeler just because the second one sounds kinda distant and notched. I've never heard a modeler sound distant. While through my own experience with micing, I know can be a bitch to get a really present, balanced tone onto tape. I like the first one better, whether or not it is the real amp I couldn't care less. I also thought that the palm mutes on the second clip didn't have the same attack that a real Recto has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stazinish Posted January 6, 2009 Members Share Posted January 6, 2009 I liked the first clip. But who said you could never get a good tone out of a modeler? I mean, I'm rocking out on my crate practice amp and right now it sounds pretty good to my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JamesPeters Posted January 6, 2009 Members Share Posted January 6, 2009 I guess it's either of these two scenarios:1) Part 1 is the modeler and part 2 was miced less-than-optimally.2) Part 2 is the modeler and not enough time was spent getting it to sound good (using a poor DI or none at all, not trying enough settings for cab sims etc.)Either way I prefer the first half. Next time don't fail so hard and actually get similar basic sounds for a more even comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BushmasterM4 Posted January 6, 2009 Members Share Posted January 6, 2009 I did this test over at recordingreview.com with 10 samples of various amps and my Boss GT8 and no one got it right. People claim they know, but when it comes down to it, they quess . I cant tell Dan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 2chordwonder Posted January 6, 2009 Members Share Posted January 6, 2009 Dan Thanks for posting this - I've been meaning to do something similar but with clean tones, using my silverface fender twin and modelled versions of same from NI, amplitude, softube etc. They're pretty darn close - far closer than the "digital haters" would care to admit. I reckon the first half is real, the second half modelled. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chaosStrings Posted January 6, 2009 Members Share Posted January 6, 2009 2nd one sucks. And it should be the amp (poorly miked or something else). I kinda like the 1st one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oops-A-Paisley Posted January 6, 2009 Members Share Posted January 6, 2009 I cannot sayI cannot care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jonPhillips Posted January 6, 2009 Members Share Posted January 6, 2009 Because I've used the aforementioned program and know its tone, I've used/heard the mics you used in real life, and above all... It's easier to simulate a good micing job than to produce one in real life. And the first clip was better... Now if I'm wrong a douche is how I will look. I'm going a big fat +1 to all of the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Uncle_Milton Posted January 6, 2009 Members Share Posted January 6, 2009 a dime and a quarter, one isn't a quarter, but the other one is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knucklefux Posted January 6, 2009 Members Share Posted January 6, 2009 based on your description of the micing, im gonna say the first was modeler and the second real amp. the reality is that it's almost impossible to tell which is which in a situation like this because micing technique can make a HUGE difference in finished product. since i know that putting the mic near the dust cover usually makes it really bright and fizzy, i say the second half is real amp. i also don't know which speaker you're using, but in this mic placement i'm not sure how much it matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Mr. Brady Posted January 6, 2009 Members Share Posted January 6, 2009 I like the first one more, but that's because the second sounds distant and muffled in comparison. I'd guess the second is a real amp just because it's harder to mic a real amp and get that up front presence that the first half of the recording has. The thing I've learned about digital vs mic'd amps is that on recordings it's hard to tell the difference. Get them in a live setting with some volume, it becomes very apparent which is tube and which isn't tube if the tube amp is dialed in decently at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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