Members JKD Posted January 9, 2009 Members Share Posted January 9, 2009 Seller is an idiot...because the refund wasn't via the original transaction (due to bank foul up?), he's not entitled to a refund of the PayPal fee he was charged for receiving the $1850 and to compound that he sends the OP money thus causing PayPal to deduct fees again from the OP. This, however, is not the OPs problem and the seller owes him $100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtyBird Posted January 9, 2009 Members Share Posted January 9, 2009 I've almost decided these days taht Im only going to deal with people here on the HCAF where I know they've been around for a while. I cant see a longtime forumite ripping off anyone here in most cases. That said, 12 hour road trip isnt worth $100 IMO, especially if that's one way. What are you gonna do? Show up on his doorstep and say "boogity boo!"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dave Owens Posted January 9, 2009 Members Share Posted January 9, 2009 this is the reason i LOVE amex....even if you screw up.. you wind up getting out of the deal.. ( even tho it cost me $350 per year to have the card.its worth it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zakkfaerum Posted January 9, 2009 Author Members Share Posted January 9, 2009 Seller is an idiot...because the refund wasn't via the original transaction (due to bank foul up?), he's not entitled to a refund of the PayPal fee he was charged for receiving the $1850 and to compound that he sends the OP money thus causing PayPal to deduct fees again from the OP.This, however, is not the OPs problem and the seller owes him $100. No, actually the refund is coming from the original amount so his fees have been refunded as well. He must have transfered money into his PP account over this time I've been waiting for the original refund to clear. Fees have all been refunded, for him, and I am not receiving any fees charged to me. He is just not sending me $99.72!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted January 9, 2009 Members Share Posted January 9, 2009 this is the reason i LOVE amex....even if you screw up.. you wind up getting out of the deal.. ( even tho it cost me $350 per year to have the card.its worth it.) Have them waive that {censored} I just change products every year or two depending on what promotions are available to me at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zakkfaerum Posted January 9, 2009 Author Members Share Posted January 9, 2009 OK so he is emailing me back more frequently now that I am trying to work it out. I write emails trying to explain that Paypal will refund his fees and stuff when he sends the rest of the refund through. You know emails trying to solve the problem. I told him that I filed a complaint with Paypal and my credit card company, and will be phoning the police if I have to. His replies are, "F%$# off" , "Hahahahaha", and "Call the firefighters too". These emails are going to go a long way on his side of the story I would assume. The crazy thing about this guy is that it seems he owns or runs an online business, not on ebay. An actual store you can go to. Graphic design. http://www.411.ca/business/Quebec/Saint-Hubert/M-B-Info-Design-Inc/3930367.htmlHe would save us both sooooo much trouble if he'd just refund me $99.72. I'm not letting it go either. He's not taking my money for his troubles of not sending me anything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nitrous2400 Posted January 9, 2009 Members Share Posted January 9, 2009 Good luck dude, save all your emails and then post it up here we'll have another thread of win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jnurp Posted January 9, 2009 Members Share Posted January 9, 2009 Man some people just need the living {censored} kicked out of them. This would be a prime example. ^ this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jnurp Posted January 9, 2009 Members Share Posted January 9, 2009 OK so he is emailing me back more frequently now that I am trying to work it out. I write emails trying to explain that Paypal will refund his fees and stuff when he sends the rest of the refund through. You know emails trying to solve the problem. I told him that I filed a complaint with Paypal and my credit card company, and will be phoning the police if I have to. His replies are, "F%$# off" , "Hahahahaha", and "Call the firefighters too". These emails are going to go a long way on his side of the story I would assume. The crazy thing about this guy is that it seems he owns or runs an online business, not on ebay. An actual store you can go to. Graphic design. http://www.411.ca/business/Quebec/Saint-Hubert/M-B-Info-Design-Inc/3930367.htmlHe would save us both sooooo much trouble if he'd just refund me $99.72. I'm not letting it go either. He's not taking my money for his troubles of not sending me anything! what is the guys name, i will call that number and bother the {censored} out of him for you, and im sure 100 other forumites will give him a piece of mind too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Brady Posted January 9, 2009 Members Share Posted January 9, 2009 That sucks, but be glad you aren't out the whole amount. You're lucky to get back what you did. Most scammers wouldn't even go that far. Doesn't make it right in any event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boytbpc Posted January 9, 2009 Members Share Posted January 9, 2009 Quebec What part of Quebec? For a slight fee I'd be more then happy to pay him a visit. NM, found the link. PM me if you want. I might be heading to Montreal soon anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mseriously30 Posted January 9, 2009 Members Share Posted January 9, 2009 What part of Quebec? For a slight fee I'd be more then happy to pay him a visit.NM, found the link. WORD. Dude needs punched in the throat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCDEF Posted January 9, 2009 Members Share Posted January 9, 2009 thats because when you paid him they took out $100 for paypal fees..he did not get the full amount, so he figures he only owes you what paypal gave to him . Paypal refunds the fees when you refund the amount. It wouldn't have cost the seller anything unless he did it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boytbpc Posted January 9, 2009 Members Share Posted January 9, 2009 WORD. Dude needs punched in the throat. Having somebody walk into your business and be nice and polite, but firm, to discuss why you haven't refunded money that you owe my "client" usually does the trick. The key is to pick a time when their are other customers in the business. Nobody wants to loose a contract with a customer because the company has unpaid debts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zakkfaerum Posted January 9, 2009 Author Members Share Posted January 9, 2009 Paypal refunds the fees when you refund the amount. It wouldn't have cost the seller anything unless he did it wrong.This is exactly how it has worked out. The fees are being refunded because the unrefunded balance on PP states $99.72 of the original $1850. BOO. He says he is keeping it for his trouble. Basically he packed up the box, etc. Then sold it to a local buyer. Dumbass!I am very happy to have my 1750 back, as I was a lot more worried when it was 1850 out there, but still I don't want this idiot getting any money from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members reddt1 Posted January 9, 2009 Members Share Posted January 9, 2009 This is a calculated scam by the sound of it. Refund the buyer *most* of their money and hope they go away. Meanwhile, he didn't "sell it locally" because there is no guitar in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zakkfaerum Posted January 9, 2009 Author Members Share Posted January 9, 2009 This is a calculated scam by the sound of it. Refund the buyer *most* of their money and hope they go away. Meanwhile, he didn't "sell it locally" because there is no guitar in the first place.I know, but he sent me every picture that I requested as I requested it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members reddt1 Posted January 9, 2009 Members Share Posted January 9, 2009 I know, but he sent me every picture that I requested as I requested it! Wow - that is even more calculated. I stand corrected. What a freaking douchebag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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