Members RiffDaemon Posted April 29, 2009 Members Share Posted April 29, 2009 No cluster{censored} here. I enjoy the show for its zany, out-of-nowhere sense of humor. Carry on .. though I do think you missed the joke completely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cliff Fiscal Posted April 29, 2009 Members Share Posted April 29, 2009 More good info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vedder323 Posted April 29, 2009 Author Members Share Posted April 29, 2009 Did you enjoy the amp and like it's tone before you found out they were chinese made? I have only plugged the amp in a few times, its about a week old. I will be playing the heck out of it this weekend... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted April 29, 2009 Members Share Posted April 29, 2009 I have only plugged the amp in a few times, its about a week old. I will be playing the heck out of it this weekend... Yeah... Break those speakers in, and decide if you should be pissed off. Or, if you know it will bug you, just return it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vedder323 Posted April 29, 2009 Author Members Share Posted April 29, 2009 Yeah...Break those speakers in, and decide if you should be pissed off. Or, if you know it will bug you, just return it now. At low volumes it sounds great, no reason to be upset yet... all my concerns have been based on internet research and youtube videos so in the end, it might not even matter at all. How long do these guys usually take to break in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted April 29, 2009 Members Share Posted April 29, 2009 Couple of months playing it loud. There are some faster methods on the internet, but I haven't tried them. I usually just keep playing them, and over time the speakers sound better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cliff Fiscal Posted April 29, 2009 Members Share Posted April 29, 2009 You need to hit the speakers with sound loud, dull cleans......open chords and such for a while. Some say you can break them in most of the way in 15-30 mins of loud clean strumming.....but I noticed more of a change over a month of jamming on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cliff Fiscal Posted April 29, 2009 Members Share Posted April 29, 2009 More: "I just found about this subject here on this forum and I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted April 29, 2009 Members Share Posted April 29, 2009 I want the guy that wrote all of that nonsense to shut the {censored} up and permanently remove himself from the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cliff Fiscal Posted April 29, 2009 Members Share Posted April 29, 2009 "I know at least two people who have given me bad reports on the Chinese blue speakers. From my point of view, the cone assembly is clearly not the original (Muller H1777) that is a central part of the blue speaker sound. I don't know the origin of the cone they now use, but it seems to have a different texture, density, and suspension, all of which are important. I understand the sound is harsh and over-bright compared to an original.On the other hand I heard the same comment when some old blues were replaced with new Celestion-made ones, so perhaps its a question of "playing them in" to loosen up the suspension. I do this artificially here by injecting a 100hz test tone into the amp and leaving it at around 5 watts of output for a couple of days. The sound changes remarkably. Perhaps it would do the same to the Chinese speakers." - Dave Peterson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted April 29, 2009 Members Share Posted April 29, 2009 Now that last bit of info actually made sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Ron Burgandy Posted April 29, 2009 Members Share Posted April 29, 2009 This is why I would never trust online comparisons of tubes, speakers, transformers, PU's ect...You just don't know whats really going on unless you are there.I just watched the vid, and then read your post.I wouldn't have known, I was just going to bounce from this thread. I can't believe anyone gets worked up of a comparison posted on Youtube. Youtube people. Youtube. Think of the terrible sound quality, and then ask yourself how you're supposed to compare things like speakers. Plus read what the creator wrote. He sounds like a goddamn moron. I wouldn't trust him to properly convey the weather outside, let alone the difference in speakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cliff Fiscal Posted April 29, 2009 Members Share Posted April 29, 2009 I hear a difference. I like the chinese Blues in my BM, but I do hear a difference. The guy is Swedish I think..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted April 29, 2009 Members Share Posted April 29, 2009 I hear a difference. I like the chinese Blues in my BM, but I do hear a difference. The guy is Swedish I think..... Oh... I'll just remove my foot from my mouth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cliff Fiscal Posted April 29, 2009 Members Share Posted April 29, 2009 His band's site......kind of an interesting name. I just jammed on my BM cranked full up....and there is a little bit of fizz on top (with treble booster)......but I don't think it's as unbearable as the video would make you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JBTubehead Posted April 29, 2009 Members Share Posted April 29, 2009 ...As I understand, there are quite a few OEM speakers still made in the UK plant that don't get advertised...Mesa's 90w Black Shadow is a Celestion 80 that's always been made at the U.K. plant. When you buy 500 pallets of speakers at a time, I guess you have a little say on where you want them made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cliff Fiscal Posted April 29, 2009 Members Share Posted April 29, 2009 Dear Forum I write now officially on behalf of Vox R&D, we do of course monitor the dialogue that takes place on the forum but it is generally our policy not to partake as we do not wish to bias any opinions towards the discussions and our intention for the forum is to be a truly open communication platform for discussion on all Vox topics, be it positive or negative. This said, we do however now feel it necessary to intercede on the subject of the Celestion Chinese Alnico speaker and the Celestion UK Alnico speaker: Please also let us state that human nature especially when debating, and certainly with musicians, will never enable everyone to be satisfied with the final decision / answer, but having so many opinions on sound especially, is what makes our business so wonderful and is why one persons unacceptable amp or tone is another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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