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"Ill Work for Water" phase ii


Eclepto Funk

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help needed, as usual

 

this is what i would consider a "finished" mix. there's a couple of flubs in the vocals, but i can live with them.

 

do you consider this finished?

 

is the guitar in tune?

 

how is the timing?

 

does the mix work for you?

 

anything else that occurs to you?

 

thanks in advance

 

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=720152&songID=8628992

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I've been trying to make time to give this intriguingly titled song a good listen for a while now...

 

Hmm...

 

It's not the eschatological worry-fest I had assumed. That's for sure.

 

The onerous tasks tumble across each other and while most of them make laugh while also making me properly uncomfortable, they seem, by and large, to be pretty criticism proof...

 

... except...

 

Bleep and lip.

 

We're expecting a rhyme, you've set us up through the whole song to expect that rhyme... and I waited, having scanned ahead to see if you'd try to mash the pronunciations toward each other somehow... that didn't happen but it leaves a big hole in the rhyme scheme... part of my brain is still going: leap, creep, sheep, peep, deep, sweep, beep, steep, keep, heap, jeep, reap, sleep, weep, zeep... (Zeep? Well, you can see what mucking with the rhyme does to my brain...)

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Sounds good.

 

I might not have noticed it if Blue2Blue hadn't mentioned it, but the bleep/lip non-rhyme didn't work for me either - you went a long way to get the Alabama/Obama rhyme, but the lip rhyme didn't work. The short i in dick would work a lot better with lip in any case.

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There are so many knockout lines in there that the limp ones really stand out. I'd get a little surgical and keep the gold. I'd also work on the enunciation--I'd really like to hear what all of these offers are, but I can only pick out one of every couple. The "feel" of the track is fantastic--very Freewheelin'. Good mix, good playing, and good arrangement.

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everything else i mentioned sound good? tune, time, basic stuff like that?

 

 

Yes, all that stuff is fine - there is nothing getting in the way of the song, and the song itself is a strong, Dylanesque flurry of socially relevant and appropos images with a powerful metrical rhythm.

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There are a few moments where I might alter the phrasing a little...nothing that I could explain in a post here. It's the kind of thing where we need to be in the same room while I pretend to produce you. But it's minor stuff - you pretty much nailed it.

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When I was listening I thought very Dylan and I read that speierg said the same after! Kudos for that, even have the harmonica!

 

Really love the lyrics to this track. The percussions nice aswell. I think the guitar could sound a bit sweeter with EQing, but its a pretty decent mix.

 

Nice Job

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I like this. You have a very old school, free form sense of rhythm. It's the kind of thing you either work to fit in the box or you leave it and let it shine. I say let it shine as you have done here. It's like Dylan, if Dylan were a Muddy Waters fan instead of a Woody Guthrie fan.

 

:thu:

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thanks guys ... trying to get my songs as good as i can get them

 

as always, invaluable help here. thank you.

 

 

 

I think the guitar could sound a bit sweeter with EQing

 

 

can you make a few suggestions, or is it more like you have to play around with it yourself to see what needs to be done?

 

it would be a great help if you could make suggestions, though i know that's probably difficult

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