Members fabeon Posted September 25, 2009 Members Share Posted September 25, 2009 I read so much varying opinions on these.. What are its tonal characteristics? How would it work for higher gain applications? kthx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MRAAJR Posted September 25, 2009 Members Share Posted September 25, 2009 inb4 kbiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted September 25, 2009 Members Share Posted September 25, 2009 I find them to be a slightly less annoying JB. The mid-high spike seems slightly less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fabeon Posted September 25, 2009 Author Members Share Posted September 25, 2009 How do they compare output wise to the JBs or the Gibson 498s? Do they get muddy for high gain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members seajay Posted September 25, 2009 Members Share Posted September 25, 2009 In prior to Kyle Bizzle. inb4 kbiz {censored}. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chippy Posted September 26, 2009 Members Share Posted September 26, 2009 I find them to be a slightly less annoying JB. The mid-high spike seems slightly less. The high-mids on the BBQ are much more balanced than the JB. I'm honestly not sure about the high gain sounds (I'm using a POD now & all the high gains on it are a bit muddy IMO). I don't expect it to be muddy; it's a fairly well-balanced pup, with just enough presence to cut through. The output seems barely a bit less than the JB, which doesn't mean {censored} if your amp is high gain anyway. Next time I'm out at GC, I'll take my axe & see how it handles some nice brutz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fabeon Posted September 26, 2009 Author Members Share Posted September 26, 2009 Chippy, how would you compare it to a 498T if you've heard/played one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orangekick Posted September 26, 2009 Members Share Posted September 26, 2009 I like the BBQ for just about anything. I have found that I prefer it in guitars that aren't mahogany, but that's just because I tend to run a bit too much low end. I would say that it handles high pretty well. The tone is thick and defined with just the right amount of attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fabeon Posted September 26, 2009 Author Members Share Posted September 26, 2009 Hmm. Well my SG = Mahogany, and the Nitro has quite a large low end, would it end up being overkill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarstar81 Posted September 26, 2009 Members Share Posted September 26, 2009 I think it would be. I have a BBQ/Genuine Texas set in my Les Paul, and the low end can get a bit muddy with high gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MRAAJR Posted September 26, 2009 Members Share Posted September 26, 2009 Where the {censored} is Kbiz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orangekick Posted September 26, 2009 Members Share Posted September 26, 2009 Hmm. Well my SG = Mahogany, and the Nitro has quite a large low end, would it end up being overkill? I would say that you just might end up with way too much bottom end with that set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members seajay Posted September 26, 2009 Members Share Posted September 26, 2009 It's kind of a dark sounding pickup. Similar output-wise to the JB & 498T. I think the BBQ blows the JB out of the water. It just sounds so thick & pleasing & musical. I find the JB to be harsh. I think the BBQ has more low end. I use the BBQ in a Gibson Les Paul Standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fabeon Posted September 26, 2009 Author Members Share Posted September 26, 2009 What I really dont want is any muddiness at high gain... seems like it might end up being that way if I put one in my SG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chippy Posted September 26, 2009 Members Share Posted September 26, 2009 Chippy, how would you compare it to a 498T if you've heard/played one? I had a 498T in a LP DC Studio that sounded great clean & w/ slight OD. On higher gain settings through my Legacy & DSL50, it would get kinda jumbled. The notes would all wash into each other. The BBQ remained pretty clear & detailed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fabeon Posted September 26, 2009 Author Members Share Posted September 26, 2009 Cause I am seriously considering the BBQ at this point.. I'm just worried that it will end up being overkill with the low end and might end up being muddy (something a lot of people claim it does). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chippy Posted September 26, 2009 Members Share Posted September 26, 2009 What I really dont want is any muddiness at high gain... seems like it might end up being that way if I put one in my SG? Hmm... SG + BBQ + Nitro = midrange city for sure. The Nitro is great at NOT being muddy, though. I've heard it sound great with plenty of other mid-rich pups like the CustomCustom & Aldrich. How's your SG sound now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fabeon Posted September 26, 2009 Author Members Share Posted September 26, 2009 I have a rather crappy GFS in the bridge and it doesn't sound that great at all TBH, but the guitar itself is solid. I a/b'd it with a 498T and the 498T seemed much more clear and 'rich' if that makes any sense. I haven't been able to try it with the Nitro yet though.. I can explain but its a long story (kinda). Also about the mid-range, I again see many different opinions on this. Some say it has a very relaxed mid range (the bbq). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members willy22 Posted September 26, 2009 Members Share Posted September 26, 2009 Here's a clip of the BBQ. I like the pickup a lot, especially for rock and blues stuff. Sound quality isn't the best, but you can get an idea of how it sounds. -9GtEXv3wBw&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members K-Bizzle Posted September 26, 2009 Members Share Posted September 26, 2009 As much as I'm a bbq fanboy, I think there are better choices for metal.Personally I think its just a killer crunchy as {censored} pup that has the dynamics I like and really delivers harmonics. Great pup and I love the {censored} out of it, but I think of it as a good hard rock pup more than a metal machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fabeon Posted September 26, 2009 Author Members Share Posted September 26, 2009 As much as I'm a bbq fanboy, I think there are better choices for metal.Personally I think its just a killer crunchy as {censored} pup that has the dynamics I like and really delivers harmonics.Great pup and I love the {censored} out of it, but I think of it as a good hard rock pup more than a metal machine. Thats basically what I'm looking for though.. What makes you say it wont work as well for metal? Is that based on output or tonal characteristics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members willy22 Posted September 26, 2009 Members Share Posted September 26, 2009 As much as I'm a bbq fanboy, I think there are better choices for metal. Personally I think its just a killer crunchy as {censored} pup that has the dynamics I like and really delivers harmonics. Great pup and I love the {censored} out of it, but I think of it as a good hard rock pup more than a metal machine. Couldn't agree more. The BBQ is raw and raunchy. The lows are a bit spongy, which doesn't lend it to metal very well, but it makes it sweet for rock tones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members K-Bizzle Posted September 26, 2009 Members Share Posted September 26, 2009 Thats basically what I'm looking for though..What makes you say it wont work as well for metal? Is that based on output or tonal characteristics? Well I guess its a combination of those two things.Its pretty somewhat low output by todays standards. (12.5K) But it sounds great with a boost.But I think it doesn't really have what I'd call a modern metal vibe. Not vintage sounding either IMO, its hard to put my finger on exactly what I'd consider it. The problem I'd think you'd run into is the spongy bottom end, a boosts helps control that a bit though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jlb32 Posted September 26, 2009 Members Share Posted September 26, 2009 For metal I think you would be better off going with the 500T over the Rio BBQ. The 500T does hard rock tones very well also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dave Owens Posted September 26, 2009 Members Share Posted September 26, 2009 ive got one in my ES335 Hamertone..sounds great. good pickup...hot vintage-ish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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