Members sabriel9v Posted December 22, 2009 Members Share Posted December 22, 2009 you can probably find a Mesa Mark III for under $800 Where have you seen this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fixdrummer80 Posted December 22, 2009 Members Share Posted December 22, 2009 mesa f-50, great amp! Here's a large thread about them: http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?t=885856 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grunge782 Posted December 22, 2009 Members Share Posted December 22, 2009 I play in a rock original/cover band playing styles anywhere ranging from Fuel, Silverchair, Metallica, Matchbox 20, Breaking Benjamin and so on. I'm looking for the best amp head in the $800 range used. I'm currently considering the Peavey JSX, Mesa Single Rectifier, Genz Benz El Diablo, soldano hot rod. Any other suggestions? Maybe single or dual. They go for amazing prices used now, so look for them. The dual gives you the rectifier tubes which for me makes the amp totally worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grunge782 Posted December 22, 2009 Members Share Posted December 22, 2009 The main differences between the Single and the Dual are the wattage (50 vs. 100) and the fact that the Single doesn't actually use rectifier tubes. This is the reason that the Single is considered tighter than both the Dual and the Triple. The rectifier tubes create more sag thus leaving the amp to be looser. I believe the Single just uses a resistor in place of the actual rectifier tubes.Someone correct if I am wrong about the rectifier section of these amps.Cole No you are right. It depends on the user what they prefer. I love the recto tubes so I am a dual user. However, you can also use the ss rectifier like on the single recto with the Dual recto. Honestly I think you get more for your money used now with the Dual recto's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Skunx Posted December 22, 2009 Members Share Posted December 22, 2009 JCM 900 SLXVH100rClassic 50DSL Lots of used options around that price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Skunx Posted December 22, 2009 Members Share Posted December 22, 2009 Krank Chadwick. Sublime rock tone! I forgot about this. Great suggestion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dimetapp drinke Posted December 22, 2009 Members Share Posted December 22, 2009 This is a really good thread - n00b has sincere questions, asks them well, gets good answers from wide range of forumites, no flaming, no BS. I'm not trying to derail it! Just noting - it's something unusual in HCAF. Good on the OP and all those who gave great informative answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JBTubehead Posted December 22, 2009 Members Share Posted December 22, 2009 Where have you seen this? I've seen Mrak 3's in Seattle's & Portland's craigslist a couple times this year for under $700...rare, but it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grunge782 Posted December 22, 2009 Members Share Posted December 22, 2009 This is a really good thread - n00b has sincere questions, asks them well, gets good answers from wide range of forumites, no flaming, no BS.I'm not trying to derail it! Just noting - it's something unusual in HCAF. Good on the OP and all those who gave great informative answers. All those guys are too busy over in the other noob thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members madryan Posted December 22, 2009 Members Share Posted December 22, 2009 Buy my DC-5 I'm thinking of selling. It'll do everything you want in spades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kayman121 Posted December 22, 2009 Members Share Posted December 22, 2009 The main differences between the Single and the Dual are the wattage (50 vs. 100) and the fact that the Single doesn't actually use rectifier tubes. This is the reason that the Single is considered tighter than both the Dual and the Triple. The rectifier tubes create more sag thus leaving the amp to be looser. I believe the Single just uses a resistor in place of the actual rectifier tubes.Someone correct if I am wrong about the rectifier section of these amps.Cole The single uses solid state diodes for rectification instead of diode tubes, not resistors. You have the option for SS diode rectification with either single/dual/triple. The latter two have the option for tube rectification through 2 or 3 rectifier tubes respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members surfrockbmxer1 Posted December 22, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 22, 2009 How similiar do all the mesa's sound? I've heard a dual and triple rectifier before and i think they're great. Although, i've never heard a single rectifier, a mark III, or a dc-5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members colejustesen Posted December 22, 2009 Members Share Posted December 22, 2009 The single uses solid state diodes for rectification instead of diode tubes, not resistors. You have the option for SS diode rectification with either single/dual/triple. The latter two have the option for tube rectification through 2 or 3 rectifier tubes respectively. Cool, thanks for that information! I remember when I first started getting into tube amps and being a complete newbie, I thought that the Single Rectifier was a hoax compared to the Dual and Triple. I say this because I didn't realize at the time that there were solid state rectifiers, and to not have a tube rectifier was false adverstisement. Fortunately I have learned more about amps and how they function by coming on this forum. Gone are the days when I had to have the 150 watt tube amp , and now more often than not I wish my DSL100 was a DSL50. Darn tubes cost soo much. I feel bad for those who have to retube a KT88 amp. Sorry for going off on a tangent. Thanks again Kayman Cole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grunge782 Posted December 22, 2009 Members Share Posted December 22, 2009 How similiar do all the mesa's sound? I've heard a dual and triple rectifier before and i think they're great. Although, i've never heard a single rectifier, a mark III, or a dc-5. Anything in the rectifier line well, sounds like a rectifier. The single does sound different though. The mark is its own series. Those you are going to have a hard time finding for that price range. I don't know much about the DC-5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GnarlsBombski Posted December 22, 2009 Members Share Posted December 22, 2009 I've seen JCM 800s for that price. That would work. This. Theyre around. Get it , do it, {censored} it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members madryan Posted December 22, 2009 Members Share Posted December 22, 2009 How similiar do all the mesa's sound? I've heard a dual and triple rectifier before and i think they're great. Although, i've never heard a single rectifier, a mark III, or a dc-5. The Mark series have a different sound and fell than the Recto's. The rectifiers are all similar in sound and feel but they do have variations from model to model as well as generations. My old 2 channel was better than any of the newer 3 channels I've played and the Tremoverb is IMO the best of them all. The Mark series amps are much more focused and have a much different feel and tone. They're not as loose feeling or saturated as the Rectifiers and are voiced with more mids. The Recto's and Marks really don't overlap. They're pretty much the opposite ends of the Mesa spectrum. Sort of in the middle is the DC series. They're voiced a bit different than a Mark. More modern like a recto, but not as scooped. They're not a focused which means they're a bit easier to play, but they're not at all flubby like Rectifiers can be. Here's a quick tone test of my DC I did with my crappy little Canon still camera. It's not bad sounding but the amp is much more dynamic in the room. The camera compresses it quite a bit and Youtube compresses it even more. Here's the DC-5 [YOUTUBE][/YOUTUBE] Here's the Mark V [YOUTUBE][/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sabriel9v Posted December 23, 2009 Members Share Posted December 23, 2009 I've seen Mrak 3's in Seattle's & Portland's craigslist a couple times this year for under $700...rare, but it happens. It seems like every time I run across a deal like that I never have the money. But then when I'm all ready to purchase something fancy and new, I can't find those kinds of deals for miles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fly_with_v Posted December 23, 2009 Members Share Posted December 23, 2009 Single Rectifier, plenty of volume, tones of tones, great clean. If you get the combo and a cab you can switch between the open back and the cab or both for different sounds. I like the open back c90 for cleans, and I use a closed back 2x12 with Vintage 30's or both for everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Killa J Posted December 23, 2009 Members Share Posted December 23, 2009 I've seen the occasional Engl go for that price. I've definitely seen the Thunder and Fireball in that range. I think I've seen a Blackmore at that price, too, but it may have been a little more. Other than that, a Carvin V3 would work. A few people have mentioned the Legacy and X100B. The V3 has as good a clean channel as those, and way better high gain for the Metallica stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RonniePentatonic Posted December 23, 2009 Members Share Posted December 23, 2009 Where have you seen this? Within the last 2 weeks 3 Mark III's have sold on Ebay for less than $800. A combo went for $495... One (blue stripe) just ended yesterday for $775. I paid $700 for mine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bhsbhswarp Posted December 23, 2009 Members Share Posted December 23, 2009 Buy my DC-5 I'm thinking of selling. It'll do everything you want in spades. this is a good one,and another vote for a DSL w/boost.pretty much get you what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members InnerVision Posted December 23, 2009 Members Share Posted December 23, 2009 Krank Chadwick. Sublime rock tone! It just so happens that I'm selling my Krank Chadwick II...and For $800... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JerEvil Posted December 23, 2009 Members Share Posted December 23, 2009 Krank Chadwick. Sublime rock tone! I agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members surfrockbmxer1 Posted December 23, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 23, 2009 Anyone selling a single rectifier? Madryan- how much are you asking for your DC-5 shipped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vic Posted December 23, 2009 Members Share Posted December 23, 2009 if you can get a soldano hot rod for under 800 you would be insane not to get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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