Members Markymarc1979 Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 I've just brought a pair of Greenbacks which i'm going to put into another 2x12, probably another Marshall. What other speakers are there that are simular, if anything? I'd like to try something else in my 1x12 also. Maybe something other than Celestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nakedzen Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 I think Eminence Private Jacks are supposed to be somewhat similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jds22 Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 I think Eminence Private Jacks are supposed to be somewhat similar. These. Also the Warehouse Green Beret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chrisjd Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 I find the Eminence p50e speakers sound similar to Greenbacks, but are higher power and much punchier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mcr23 Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 I find the Eminence p50e speakers sound similar to Greenbacks, but are higher power and much punchier. we have a winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members .homewrecker. Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 Not exactly alike but the WGS ET65s are GB-esque with a little more top end and tighter bottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cap'n'crunch Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 What about those Eminence Legends? The GB series. They are supposed to be Greenback like with higher handling. Of course, part of the greenback magic is the low power handling. A bit of speaker breakup going on I imagine but, not practical in a 1 x 12 format or in some cases even 2 x 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members skinsscalper Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 Aren't scumbacks supposed to be similar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Markymarc1979 Posted February 4, 2010 Author Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 Can't seem to find much about the P50e? http://www.eminence-speaker.com/guitar.asp?speaker_size=12 I'm thinking of the Private Jacks or Legend. http://www.adamhall.com/uk/AH_p--project_27__b--ERPRIVATEA http://www.adamhall.com/uk/AH_p--project_27__b--EGLGB12A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MightyThor Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 I was thinking the Eminence Legend GB12. The Private Jack is supposed to be evolved from the GB12. I've been meaning to buy a greenback to compare to my private jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scud133 Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 Warehouse Green Beret (love mine) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chrisjd Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 Can't seem to find much about the P50e? http://www.eminence-speaker.com/guitar.asp?speaker_size=12I'm thinking of the Private Jacks or Legend.http://www.adamhall.com/uk/AH_p--project_27__b--ERPRIVATEAhttp://www.adamhall.com/uk/AH_p--project_27__b--EGLGB12A I don't think you can buy them individually. They come in VHT/Fryette cabinets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Markymarc1979 Posted February 4, 2010 Author Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 I've bit the bullet and brought a Legend GB128. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jessexxx Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 Aren't scumbacks supposed to be similar? oh yes they are!!,..but not just any greenback,..there exact reproduction of the older,..creamier,...certain cone,..with specific doping etc,.. there pricey!!,..but you can get them in any wattage,..ohmage,..freq, that you could ever want,....i own 4,..and they are by far the best speakers i have ever used.... dont cheapout on the speakers,...i am starting to think there the most important part of the signal chain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oblivion DC Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 I don't think you can buy them individually. They come in VHT/Fryette cabinets. Check the Fryette website - they go for 90 bucks each. http://www.sfdamp.com/accessories.html I got one and dropped it into a ported 112 Deizel cab, sounds killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members .homewrecker. Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 oh yes they are!!,..but not just any greenback,..there exact reproduction of the older,..creamier,...certain cone,..with specific doping etc,..there pricey!!,..but you can get them in any wattage,..ohmage,..freq, that you could ever want,....i own 4,..and they are by far the best speakers i have ever used....dont cheapout on the speakers,...i am starting to think there the most important part of the signal chain... Bolded for absolute truth. Scumbacks are awesome, tons of options, but at that price point you can almost buy the real thing depending on the market. But they're an option certainly worth pursuing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sinnerx96 Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 I've been using and loving the Weber Silver Bells lately for this kind of thing. I got mine with the ceramic magnet, 50w, and light doping. They have all of the character and "give" of the Heritage Greenbacks and the older ones(I'm not a huge fan of the chinese version) , but they have a punchier bottom end that holds up way better for higher gain & more modern stuff. I love that textured midrange, smokey overall character, and they are more articulate in the highs than a greenback. A little less sizzle than greenbacks. These and the Weber Blue Dogs(also with ceramic magnet, 50w, and light doping), are my two favorite speakers that I've used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sabriel9v Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 Aren't scumbacks supposed to be similar? Scumbacks are some of the best pre-Rola Greenbacks out. Jim owns like 300 original Greenbacks and developed his design based off that and additional research he did with Tim Weber. He's on TGP and those guys worship his speakers there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members "sasquatch" Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 Eminence GB12 is a 50 watt greenback, with better bass response and less breakup. That's what they designed it to do, say it does, and that is what, in fact, what it is. I have one. Nice speaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Markymarc1979 Posted February 4, 2010 Author Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 I went for broke and ordered two Eminence Private Jacks as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RyGy Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 Lots of good speaker info here. I thought that the H30 was suposed to be close to the greenback but with less breakup. If that is true I might have to get some greenback like speakers since I have Wizards which are like H30s in my 412, and they kill!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cougar Hunter Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 lots of good info in this thread BTW: P-50E SPEAKER BEHAVIOR AND THE P50EThe P50E speaker is custom built to Fryette specifications by Eminence, and is only available fromFryette. The P50E is not an OEM version of the Eminence Redcoat or Patriot series speaker line.It is difficult to discuss the sonic characteristics of the P50E or any speaker for that matter, inisolation because so much of speaker behavior depends on the environment in which it isoperating - that is to say, 2X12 cab, 4X12 cab, front-mount, rear-mount, wood type, constructionstyle, playing volume, etc, etc. Having said all that lets talk about the P50E versus the popularCelestion Vintage 30 in a Fryette 4X12 FatBottom straight cab.The P50E is actually a 50-watt speaker. The V30, although officially rated at 60 watts is in realitycloser to 75 watts. The P50E has a smaller magnet than the V30, which insures that the speakerwill break up at lower amplifier power than a V30. However, the V30 has a more compliantsuspension, which together with the larger magnet causes the speaker to move more-low end.This also causes more distortion in the higher frequencies contributing to a harsh top end. Thehighly compliant suspension makes it difficult for the speaker to track low frequencies especiallyat high volume levels and this causes a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Markymarc1979 Posted February 4, 2010 Author Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 Yeah this thread is turning into a good speaker reference thread for me. Since starting it, I have ordered 2 Private Jack and 2 Legend GB128, and I am bidding on another 1936 cab. Thanks for all the good advise guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Markymarc1979 Posted February 4, 2010 Author Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 Just straying a bit here, has anyone tried the Eminence Man O War speakers yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RyGy Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 I have a single man-o-war. It is a great speaker for rock, it is suposed to be like a T75. It is chunky sounding to me. I like it with some amps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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