Members monkeysuit Posted March 24, 2010 Members Share Posted March 24, 2010 I wanna buy a VST drumkit for some homerecording, so far I found the Steven Slate EX and Ezdrummer (+Metal/DFH Expansion) that both look interesting. Judging from clips the Slate drums sound better but i really like the bundled midi drumloops that come with Ezdrummer.Anybody tried one or even both of those and can give me some insights?I'm also open for other suggestions, budget is ~$150 and I need a kit thats suitable for modern rock/metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members syscrusher Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 I just got the Steven Slate EX so I'm still learning it and I have had EZDrummer for some time now. I would say Seven Slate EX has EZDrummer beat by a long shot. Yeah, you get a decent package deal on the loops on EZDrummer but the Steven Slate EX sounds ten times better. I have found that the EZDrummer loops work in Steven Slate EX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thefyn Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 www.audiomid.com were blowing out steven slate fofr $20 plus dirt cheap additional packs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members monkeysuit Posted March 25, 2010 Author Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 www.audiomid.com were blowing out steven slate fofr $20 plus dirt cheap additional packs. Looks like the sale is over. Nevermind, I don't know if the deal would have been available in Germany anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members yourguitarhero Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 I find EZdrummer much easier to use than Steven Slate, but Slate drums sound better. I'll send you the EZDrummer midi files if you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members monkeysuit Posted March 25, 2010 Author Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 I find EZdrummer much easier to use than Steven Slate, but Slate drums sound better.I'll send you the EZDrummer midi files if you want. That was my impression as well, especially the bassdrums didn't sound good on the ezdrummer dfh clips I heard. I might get back to you about the midifiles. Did you already work with the midis on the Slate drums and did it go as easy as with ezdrummer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members yourguitarhero Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 Well I have EZDrummer, Superior Drummer and the Steven Slate ones.The EZDrummer midi work fine in SD2.0.I tried going over the Steven Slate on the same MIDI files and it was hitting a splash where SD2.0 was using a crash ride.Couldn't figure out how to change the mappings on each drum in Steven Slate so the note is triggering the right cymbals. it uses Kontakt Player which I've not got much experience with. The Toontrack stuff is def easier to use. I prob need to spend more time with Slate Drums though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cavemanic Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 I have found that the EZDrummer loops work in Steven Slate EX. so its pretty much perfect? Don't have to remap to much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members yourguitarhero Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 You don't have to do too much re-mapping but they're not perfect.Supposedly ezplayer can do it, but I can't get that working on my machine annoyingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members monkeysuit Posted March 25, 2010 Author Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 so its pretty much perfect? Don't have to remap to much? I'd like to know that as well. And if you have to remap something is this a one time action or do you have to do the remap each time you use a ezdrummer midifile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PhilBelanger Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 I have EZDrummer with a bunch of expansion , SD 2.0 ans Slate drums with the Metal Drum pack and I like Slate drums better. (you may need to fool around with the snare but it's a preference thing) I use the EZDrummer midi loops but so far, I only needed to remap the hi-hats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members monkeysuit Posted March 25, 2010 Author Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 Think I'll go with the Slate EX, if its a bit more difficult to handle I just have to get used to it but I definitely take good sound quality over usability here.Any opinions on what expansion to get besides the metal pack? The store I wanna order from has a 2 for 1 offer on expansion packs right now. @PhilBelanger: How does the remap work, I'm pretty much a noob when it comes to that stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NixerX Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 I have both and I think EZD is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members monkeysuit Posted March 25, 2010 Author Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 I have both and I think EZD is better. Explain please.I listened to all clips I could find and while I can see someone preferring the EZDrummer for usability I found the Slate Clips to sound a lot better. The standard EZD kit sounded alright but the DFH expansion was not really what I expected especially the bassdrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NixerX Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 Explain please.I listened to all clips I could find and while I can see someone preferring the EZDrummer for usability I found the Slate Clips to sound a lot better. The standard EZD kit sounded alright but the DFH expansion was not really what I expected especially the bassdrum. That's precisely why I like EZD better. Simpler to use and for me it runs better than SSD.Personally I cant tell the diff between the two as far as drums sounds. EZD sounds better than anything I have the ability or $$ to record so saying one is better than the other is splitting hairs. Im going to go with what gets me to the song writing processes the fastest. For me thats EZD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fretless Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 I use both with ezplayer , got the 20 dollar drums , love the Zep kit . So now I'm stuck using the zep kit with all the other ez loops . here , join the fun :poke: http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?t=2567445 http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?t=2590819 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members monkeysuit Posted March 25, 2010 Author Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 I use both with ezplayer , got the 20 dollar drums , love the Zep kit . So now I'm stuck using the zep kit with all the other ez loops . here , join the fun :poke: http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?t=2567445http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?t=2590819 I might join the Drumjam tonight. I just borrowed a SM57 and want to toy around with it anyway. Can I use this ezplayer with the Slate Drums and the EZdrummer midi files without owning EZdrummer? edit. I'm talking about the free ezplayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fretless Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 I might join the Drumjam tonight. I just borrowed a SM57 and want to toy around with it anyway. Can I use this ezplayer with the Slate Drums and the EZdrummer midi files without owning EZdrummer? edit. I'm talking about the free ezplayer sorry I'm not sure , I have the ezplayer pro . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Aibric Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 EZDrummer's interface is much better, but there is no comparison between the sample quality and humanization algorithms - Slate is far superior. Plus, you get more kits with the Slate EX than you would just buying EZDrummer, and you can mix them as you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PhilBelanger Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 Think I'll go with the Slate EX, if its a bit more difficult to handle I just have to get used to it but I definitely take good sound quality over usability here.Any opinions on what expansion to get besides the metal pack? The store I wanna order from has a 2 for 1 offer on expansion packs right now.@PhilBelanger: How does the remap work, I'm pretty much a noob when it comes to that stuff? The basic problem is the hi-hat is not assigned to the correct note (Toontrack vs. General Midi). I simply open the midi snippet in Cubase, I track down which note the hi-hat is currently assigned. I select all notes then move those hits to the proper place (as per General midi mapping). I hope this help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mfergel Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 Hey, where did you guys put the sample files? It said to put them in the sample folder but it didn't create one with my install. It also brought up the service console for me to register the serial number but where was that provided in the download version? I bought two of the expansion packs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cavemanic Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 The basic problem is the hi-hat is not assigned to the correct note (Toontrack vs. General Midi). I simply open the midi snippet in Cubase, I track down which note the hi-hat is currently assigned. I select all notes then move those hits to the proper place (as per General midi mapping).I hope this help. can you save that as a template in cubase as a one do thing? I got ez drummer and SS plus the metal and classic rock EXI'm actually installing them all on my main pc in Australia in a few days!VERY EXCITE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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