Members FBird Nation Posted April 9, 2011 Members Share Posted April 9, 2011 I thought that video sounded like complete garbage. Obviously the camera isn't representing it right. ??? Loomis is incapable of sounding like "complete garbage"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ebola Posted April 9, 2011 Members Share Posted April 9, 2011 haha Meshuggah riff ftw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members glenecho Posted April 9, 2011 Members Share Posted April 9, 2011 Schecter/Engl setup had more character. This just makes him sound like everyone else. Sorry...but true. The tone on his solo album can't be topped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ericwylde Posted April 9, 2011 Members Share Posted April 9, 2011 Schecter/Engl setup had more character. This just makes him sound like everyone else.oh... right... like he's the only guy playing metal on 7 string schecters with EMG pickups into ENGL amps I have like 5 close friends with that same setup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members glenecho Posted April 9, 2011 Members Share Posted April 9, 2011 oh... right... like he's the only guy playing metal on 7 string schecters with EMG pickups into ENGL amps I have like 5 close friends with that same setup And all 5 may sound like {censored}. But Loomis made it work. Again, listen to his solo album or the youtubes of him demoing his old rig. It sounded fatter and meatier. This sounds pedestrian in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NinjaRaf Posted April 9, 2011 Members Share Posted April 9, 2011 Holy balls...that sounds {censored}ing incredible!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ericwylde Posted April 9, 2011 Members Share Posted April 9, 2011 And all 5 may sound like {censored}. But Loomis made it work. Again, listen to his solo album or the youtubes of him demoing his old rig. It sounded fatter and meatier. This sounds pedestrian in comparison. well, they can't play like him, but tonewise, they do sound close enough to himit's not like combining EMG and ENGL tuned to A would allow such a big tone variance I like the tone on this video better than most of his videos with ENGL ampsbut I agree this doesn't sound like his tone, and that's expected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Daveborn2rock Posted April 10, 2011 Members Share Posted April 10, 2011 I wouldn't try comparing this to his professionally recording tone people. Without even getting into the whole youtube compressions stuff, let's remember that this is the very first public unveiling of the amp, it's not like Loomis had very much time to dial in a perfect tone. He probably sat down, turned on the amp, maybe twisted some knobs a bit and started playing the way he likes to play, and for that it sounds pretty damn sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeadNight Warrior Posted April 10, 2011 Members Share Posted April 10, 2011 And all 5 may sound like {censored}. But Loomis made it work. Again, listen to his solo album or the youtubes of him demoing his old rig. It sounded fatter and meatier. This sounds pedestrian in comparison. Personally I think the sound overall, guitars included, is pretty average on his solo album. The lead tones on the latest Nevermore also sounded like thin weak {censored}, but I did like the rhythm sounds. I did think the Diezel sound could have done with a bit more clarity in the high end, but then again... it seems to be just dodgy camera mic sound, so it's not the best material to be judging from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Duesentrieb Posted April 10, 2011 Author Members Share Posted April 10, 2011 new vid added Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members superflyinmonke Posted April 10, 2011 Members Share Posted April 10, 2011 That last guy ruled dicks. Spectacular feel from that dude's licks. Buy a {censored}ing Diezel, or you all are pricks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Duesentrieb Posted April 10, 2011 Author Members Share Posted April 10, 2011 LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitar_face Posted April 10, 2011 Members Share Posted April 10, 2011 When I graduate from my current degree this will be my next Diezel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members killgrace Posted April 10, 2011 Members Share Posted April 10, 2011 Kinda diggin' it thus far...Would really like to hear a channel by channel walk through that is recorded properly before a make any real judgements. Couple thoughs: 1. seems to be the most "organic" voicing of any of the Diezels 2. tighter than the Herbert, but a bit looser than the VH4 3. nice crisp top-end, but voicing's "size" is primarily generated in the low-mids 4. cleans remind me more of "classic" amps...More so than any previous Diezel 5. seems insanely versitle (even for a Diezel)...A true "Swiss army knife" 6. seems a bit more accepting of high output, and even active pickups than the VH4, due to the decrease in compression 7. the most "Marshall" sounding amp in the Diezel line up 8. all, of this being said, it still DEFINATELY sounds like a Diezel...And ONLY a Diezel does. Just my first impressions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zeppelin Rules Posted April 10, 2011 Members Share Posted April 10, 2011 Best tone he's had for years. Agreed. I like how he played a bit of Bleed in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ericwylde Posted April 11, 2011 Members Share Posted April 11, 2011 Kinda diggin' it thus far...Would really like to hear a channel by channel walk through that is recorded properly before a make any real judgements. Couple thoughs: 1. seems to be the most "organic" voicing of any of the Diezels 2. tighter than the Herbert, but a bit looser than the VH4 3. nice crisp top-end, but voicing's "size" is primarily generated in the low-mids 4. cleans remind me more of "classic" amps...More so than any previous Diezel 5. seems insanely versitle (even for a Diezel)...A true "Swiss army knife" 6. seems a bit more accepting of high output, and even active pickups than the VH4, due to the decrease in compression 7. the most "Marshall" sounding amp in the Diezel line up 8. all, of this being said, it still DEFINATELY sounds like a Diezel...And ONLY a Diezel does. Just my first impressions... well, you just described the Einstein's Ch1 Modes 2 and 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Valtiel Posted April 11, 2011 Members Share Posted April 11, 2011 Sounds great to me. Even though an onboard camera mic isn't going to give you the greatest picture in the world you can still hear the fundamental tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members missingastring Posted April 11, 2011 Members Share Posted April 11, 2011 Sounds great to me. Even though an onboard camera mic isn't going to give you the greatest picture in the world you can still hear the fundamental tone. This. I heard enough to give me a fundamental boner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mavesicles Posted April 11, 2011 Members Share Posted April 11, 2011 Can't play for {censored} today, huh Jeff...? Sureeeeeeeeeee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tech21man Posted April 11, 2011 Members Share Posted April 11, 2011 well, you just described the Einstein's Ch1 Modes 2 and 3 This. If I do get a diezel in the near future, it will only be an einstein and for the exact above reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mizati20 Posted April 11, 2011 Members Share Posted April 11, 2011 I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sikor Posted April 11, 2011 Members Share Posted April 11, 2011 Kinda diggin' it thus far...Would really like to hear a channel by channel walk through that is recorded properly before a make any real judgements. Couple thoughs: ... 2. tighter than the Herbert, but a bit looser than the VH4... You mean opposite right?I think the herbert is the tightest of the 3, VH4 being the loostest one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Les-Zombie Posted April 11, 2011 Members Share Posted April 11, 2011 After owning both the vh4 and herbert i feel the vh4 is the tightest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mhenson42 Posted April 11, 2011 Members Share Posted April 11, 2011 ^Agreed....if your VH4 is looser than your Herbert, you should have it checked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sikor Posted April 12, 2011 Members Share Posted April 12, 2011 ^Agreed....if your VH4 is looser than your Herbert, you should have it checked out.I got You guys, but it wasn't really what I've heard in the sound booth Herbert had much bigger bottom, but stayed amazingly focused with 7-string,which VH4 couldn't do.Saying that, it was ofc short test (I was focused on Hagen) and amps where set up by Doug how he likes it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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