Members this is paul Posted May 21, 2012 Members Share Posted May 21, 2012 Word. I know the guys in the band, and they're very cool. We all get along, which is why I think they thought of me. It's not 100% for sure at this point (sounded like a long story), but I will be learning some of their songs anyway. The guitar player and I get along pretty well, so I don't foresee any big issues. It's not about getting along. I've played with best friends and had it not work out. I've played with strangers and been spot on with them. You need to be on the same page playing wise, and that's easier for some than others. It's rare that two people end up on the same page with strumming style, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Charlie_Sheen Posted May 21, 2012 Members Share Posted May 21, 2012 1. {censored} rhythm, play lead2. run 2 mesa coliseums into four 4x12s3. go to item 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Johnny'sGotTheBlues Posted May 21, 2012 Members Share Posted May 21, 2012 Try to rehearse with the other guitar player...just you two. If you two walk into rehearsal locked and tight you'll save the band HOURS. Plus, with a whole band sometimes it's hard to hear the other guitar, especially if the band gets loud at rehearsal (I hate that but that's another thread). So it's best to lock your parts down when you two are alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members themadscientist Posted May 21, 2012 Members Share Posted May 21, 2012 As in? G power chord play a full G chord? or like an octave or something? if someone is playing a simple G power chord, I'll do an inversion a bit higher up the neck; this is a 1st inversion (I like to add the B on the E string too) if you get good at mixing inversions when you're playing similar parts, it'll keep the music interesting to the listener's ear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members almightycrunch Posted May 21, 2012 Members Share Posted May 21, 2012 As in? G power chord play a full G chord? or like an octave or something? I tended to play much more open chord voicings as my lead player tended to go for the cheaters more often than not. Timing is key, be the rock. my .02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SnowStorm Posted May 21, 2012 Members Share Posted May 21, 2012 if someone is playing a simple G power chord, I'll do an inversion a bit higher up the neck; this is a 1st inversion (I like to add the B on the E string too)if you get good at mixing inversions when you're playing similar parts, it'll keep the music interesting to the listener's ear This is also very good advice. Can add a lot of color to rhythms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StankNasty Posted May 21, 2012 Members Share Posted May 21, 2012 Malcolm Young it - turn the gain & bass down Also Silverchair/RATM it - get tight with the bass player: nothing sounds more massive than drums/bass/guitar all riffing together tight. Listen to Frog Stomp & Evil Empire & you'll hear what I'm talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cliff Fiscal Posted May 21, 2012 Author Members Share Posted May 21, 2012 I'm coming from a band where I was playing bass for 3 years......I feel like I've really tightened my playing up and learned a lot from the experience. I had always tried, when playing in unison, to make us sound like one giant guitar. After seeing a lot of bands with 2 guitars, I'm almost always surprised by the tones of the guitars separately...... One guitar player starts a riff.........then the other guitar comes in, and you go "oooooooooohhhhhhh! :idea:" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrelusive Posted May 21, 2012 Members Share Posted May 21, 2012 I tended to play much more open chord voicings as my lead player tended to go for the cheaters more often than not. Timing is key, be the rock. my .02 oh man, this. I was the opposite, though. The 'lead' guitarist would do a lot of open voicings and i'd cheat and do fifths, power chords, or octaves since i was singing as well. Turning your lows down works very well. Also, in a two-guitarist band i've always backed off on the gain somewhat. Seemed to work better with a bass and two guitars. An i'm talking heavier hard rock type stuff as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cliff Fiscal Posted May 21, 2012 Author Members Share Posted May 21, 2012 Malcolm Young it - turn the gain & bass downAlso Silverchair/RATM it - get tight with the bass player: nothing sounds more massive than drums/bass/guitar all riffing together tight. Listen to Frog Stomp & Evil Empire & you'll hear what I'm talking about That was my other thought too.......just play cleaner than I would normally. More of a garage-y tone, than a full on distortion. It's not all that chuggy or straight metal. I enjoy both of those albums very much....I know what you're saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members madryan Posted May 21, 2012 Members Share Posted May 21, 2012 Get the new Zoom video/audio recorder. They're not super expensive. Once you guys are used to each other record a gig or practice and then watch the entire thing together to see what you guys are doing wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrelusive Posted May 21, 2012 Members Share Posted May 21, 2012 Also, use a different material for your strap And ALWAYS invite your girlfriend to band practice. She can help give you tone advice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -Assy- Posted May 21, 2012 Members Share Posted May 21, 2012 be louder than the other guy, never ever play rhythm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Krank'N Posted May 21, 2012 Members Share Posted May 21, 2012 It helps if you can go wireless or at least get some long cables and then get out in front of the band and really listen to how it sounds. Once everyone gets a good mix make notes of the settings and stick to them. If the other guitar player keeps reaching for the volume knob then its ALWAYS a struggle. Play for the band/mix NOT to be the dominator! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jshaffer20 Posted May 21, 2012 Members Share Posted May 21, 2012 We have always been a two guitar band until this year. Learn each others style and compliment each other with different chord shapes. That worked really well for us and it sounds huge when played tight. Our other guitar player had to step down so I am having to change everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cliff Fiscal Posted May 21, 2012 Author Members Share Posted May 21, 2012 I was mostly talking about tone, as I understand band etiquette and all that, but this has been helpful. Good ideas though....definitely need to be considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Orbis_Mortis Posted May 21, 2012 Members Share Posted May 21, 2012 I would have the opposite problem. I've always been in band with 2 guitar players. The other guitar player usually strictly played rhythm and I would add textures to it. Just play stuff to complement each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members benjamin801 Posted May 21, 2012 Members Share Posted May 21, 2012 I was mostly talking about tone, as I understand band etiquette and all that, but this has been helpful. Well, I think it starts with tone. My co-guitarist and I have very complementary rigs, and we each own our own little space in the mix, which means we rarely if ever find ourselves turning up to be heard. His Fryette 100/CL has chunky low end, is really dry and grainy (in a good way), and is slightly scoopy. My Mesa Mark III brings a bit more saturation, juiciness and mids. It also helps that we have the bassist least likely of any in the world to step on any of our frequencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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