Members NeloAngelo Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 gun control isn't about guns, it's about control.if we get rid of all guns, wtf are we supposed to use when manifest destiny goes interstellar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 gun control isn't about guns, it's about control.if we get rid of all guns, wtf are we supposed to use when manifest destiny goes interstellar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Anomaly Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 How's it going in here? Did anyone change anyone else's mind yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Anomaly Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 How's it going in here? Did anyone change anyone else's mind yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members snoz65 Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 Originally Posted by uppercasenoises LOL, even some Australians are starting to ignore their gun laws. http://www.news.com.au/national/shoo...-1226546761120 Quoted from link above... "It feeds upon itself. The more people that carry weapons, the more other people also carry them ... they don't want to be the one without protection." An Australian Institute of Criminology research report from June last year says most illegal firearms were either imported before legislative changes and reforms in the 1990s and early 2000s, or were stolen registered guns that were then circulated on the black market. Ms Lee said reducing the number of legal firearms would naturally decrease the number of illegal ones. Still very rare to see a gun on the streets around here. At least the licensing and regulation means that they can be somewhat monitored. I know that if I were to go spaz tomorrow I could not just go to mums drawer and find a gun. Don't know what i would do if I wanted to be a mass killer on the spur of a moment, maybe run down some pedestrians with my car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members snoz65 Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 Originally Posted by uppercasenoises LOL, even some Australians are starting to ignore their gun laws. http://www.news.com.au/national/shoo...-1226546761120 Quoted from link above... "It feeds upon itself. The more people that carry weapons, the more other people also carry them ... they don't want to be the one without protection." An Australian Institute of Criminology research report from June last year says most illegal firearms were either imported before legislative changes and reforms in the 1990s and early 2000s, or were stolen registered guns that were then circulated on the black market. Ms Lee said reducing the number of legal firearms would naturally decrease the number of illegal ones. Still very rare to see a gun on the streets around here. At least the licensing and regulation means that they can be somewhat monitored. I know that if I were to go spaz tomorrow I could not just go to mums drawer and find a gun. Don't know what i would do if I wanted to be a mass killer on the spur of a moment, maybe run down some pedestrians with my car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/340113whoops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/340113whoops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marshallnoise Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 Originally Posted by NeloAngelo http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/340113 whoops. These people, the {censored}ing media, are terrible at their jobs at a bare minimum. Worst case, they are the 4th branch of the US Government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marshallnoise Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 Originally Posted by NeloAngelo http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/340113 whoops. These people, the {censored}ing media, are terrible at their jobs at a bare minimum. Worst case, they are the 4th branch of the US Government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mesa4x12er2 Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 Hammers and clubs kill more Americans than rifles. http://nation.foxnews.com/gun-rights...ch-year-rifles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mesa4x12er2 Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 Hammers and clubs kill more Americans than rifles. http://nation.foxnews.com/gun-rights...ch-year-rifles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ermghoti II Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 Unarmed attackers kill more Americans than rifles. Twice as many, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ermghoti II Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 Unarmed attackers kill more Americans than rifles. Twice as many, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members almightycrunch Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 But that doesn't support the gun control argument, so these facts shall be stricken from the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members almightycrunch Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 But that doesn't support the gun control argument, so these facts shall be stricken from the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members almightycrunch Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 My final comment on this subject will be this. It has already been made clear that I feel we have become far too lenient on criminals, empowering them with rehabilitation, meals and housing, lesser sentences because mommy didnt give them enough hugs as a child etc... It would also be my stance, as controversial as this may seem, that the ideology behind this "ohhh poor baby, you just didnt have as good a childhood as that guy, therefore it is not your fault you robbed and killed those people, we will place you in prison for 5 years where you can reflect on your mistake, and return to society when you are rehabilitated"(or until we dont have enough room for you any longer and release you even though you havent been rehabilitated) I would place a large part of the blame for these mass killing tragedies on the shoulders of those people who hold and follow that ideology as well. It is your policies that ensure there is a steady supply of this part of society, ready and willing to partake in these types of atrocities. Personal responsibility has been removed from committing a crime, and been replaced with what book or movie someone may have watched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members almightycrunch Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 My final comment on this subject will be this. It has already been made clear that I feel we have become far too lenient on criminals, empowering them with rehabilitation, meals and housing, lesser sentences because mommy didnt give them enough hugs as a child etc... It would also be my stance, as controversial as this may seem, that the ideology behind this "ohhh poor baby, you just didnt have as good a childhood as that guy, therefore it is not your fault you robbed and killed those people, we will place you in prison for 5 years where you can reflect on your mistake, and return to society when you are rehabilitated"(or until we dont have enough room for you any longer and release you even though you havent been rehabilitated) I would place a large part of the blame for these mass killing tragedies on the shoulders of those people who hold and follow that ideology as well. It is your policies that ensure there is a steady supply of this part of society, ready and willing to partake in these types of atrocities. Personal responsibility has been removed from committing a crime, and been replaced with what book or movie someone may have watched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crisis Posted January 5, 2013 Members Share Posted January 5, 2013 Originally Posted by uppercasenoises My way would be improving socioeconomic issues for poorer populations, improving the education and healthcare systems (including mental health), ending the multi-trillion dollar Drug War and transferring the money spent on improving society, etc etc... Um, you are not the first to think of these. Your conservative element do not seem to be too enthusiastic about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crisis Posted January 5, 2013 Members Share Posted January 5, 2013 Originally Posted by uppercasenoises My way would be improving socioeconomic issues for poorer populations, improving the education and healthcare systems (including mental health), ending the multi-trillion dollar Drug War and transferring the money spent on improving society, etc etc... Um, you are not the first to think of these. Your conservative element do not seem to be too enthusiastic about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crisis Posted January 5, 2013 Members Share Posted January 5, 2013 Originally Posted by Mesa4x12er2 Crisis I don't know why you even keep coming in here. Someone could bring you irrefutable proof and you'd still disregard it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crisis Posted January 5, 2013 Members Share Posted January 5, 2013 Originally Posted by Mesa4x12er2 Crisis I don't know why you even keep coming in here. Someone could bring you irrefutable proof and you'd still disregard it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted January 5, 2013 Members Share Posted January 5, 2013 i don't know about you, but crisis really makes me want to buy guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted January 5, 2013 Members Share Posted January 5, 2013 i don't know about you, but crisis really makes me want to buy guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crisis Posted January 5, 2013 Members Share Posted January 5, 2013 Originally Posted by NeloAngelo i don't know about you, but crisis really makes me want to buy guns. Yeah, that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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