Members Casey4s Posted October 20, 2010 Members Share Posted October 20, 2010 I'll rephrase. I hate re-doing layouts. The first one I didnt wont fly with the new schematic so its back to the drawing board. I should probably save myself a lot of time and effort by making my own eyelet board rather than trying to shoehorn stuff on tag board.Cheers man. We really made a mess of that recording. All done live with not much time to set up and get things done. Took an age to mix out all the bad. I use turrets, but I make my boards to fit the intended layout. If you make your own eyelet boards, that would be the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zozobra Posted October 20, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 20, 2010 If I'm still scratching my head by the weekend trying to get everything on these two tag boards I may well go with making my own eyelet board. I've heard lots of arguments about eyelet vs turret. Certainly eyelet is cheaper and some say that they make better electrical connections too. Not sure what to believe there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Casey4s Posted October 20, 2010 Members Share Posted October 20, 2010 If I'm still scratching my head by the weekend trying to get everything on these two tag boards I may well go with making my own eyelet board. I've heard lots of arguments about eyelet vs turret. Certainly eyelet is cheaper and some say that they make better electrical connections too. Not sure what to believe there. I think either work equally well it's just a matter of what you like to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zozobra Posted October 20, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 20, 2010 Y'know I think I'll try this eyelet business. Dumb question but whats the best way to flange them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Casey4s Posted October 20, 2010 Members Share Posted October 20, 2010 Y'know I think I'll try this eyelet business. Dumb question but whats the best way to flange them? This is for turrets but the flanging is done the same way. Just make a pointed tool like in the photos and gently tap them if you have no press. http://s238.photobucket.com/albums/ff243/Casey4s/Basic%20Turret%20Board%20Construction/?start=all&paginator=top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zozobra Posted October 21, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 21, 2010 Cheers. One of the places I'm sourcing bits from has a guide on how to make a turret stake so I'll get on with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zozobra Posted October 22, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 22, 2010 Ordered 100 eyelets and some board. I think it'll look neater and will be easier to make this way. I'll save the tag board for something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Casey4s Posted October 22, 2010 Members Share Posted October 22, 2010 I think once you start using eyeles or turrets you'll never do tag strips again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zozobra Posted October 22, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 22, 2010 I can see how doing a layout is easier and tidier with them and ultimately a nice clean build is worth a little extra cost. If I ever do a hiwatt clone I might go tag. One of the places I source my parts from does a generic 30x2 turret board with extra holes to add turrets for pretty cheap so I may use that for a 20W build I'm doing for a friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Casey4s Posted October 22, 2010 Members Share Posted October 22, 2010 Cool! I think you'll like the boards a lot better. BTW, I have been working out with that CAD software you turned me onto. Take a look at my last post in my winter amp thread and see how I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zozobra Posted October 22, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 22, 2010 Looks good! It seems there have been some nice updates to the package since I installed it. May have to upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Casey4s Posted October 22, 2010 Members Share Posted October 22, 2010 Looks good! It seems there have been some nice updates to the package since I installed it. May have to upgrade. I downloaded a bunch of custom components from the Hoffman site, whch really made this a lot easier. I did create a few of my own too. This is the first CAD I have been able to use, once I got started it went really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zozobra Posted October 24, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 24, 2010 Cool, I'll check that out. Starting to get somewhere with this layout now. First attempt wasnt efficient enough. I intend to get everything on a 200x70 mm board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Casey4s Posted October 24, 2010 Members Share Posted October 24, 2010 Cool, I'll check that out.Starting to get somewhere with this layout now. First attempt wasnt efficient enough. I intend to get everything on a 200x70 mm board. When I do a layout for a turret/eyelet board I lay it all out on paper on graph paper at 1:1 so I know all the componets are going to fit as intended. Then it maks stuffing the actual board go really fast with less errors. 200x70 is roughly 2.75" x 8", it should do fine. I am looking forward to seeing how your boost stage works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zozobra Posted October 24, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 24, 2010 I'm doing that using a vector art package. Everything is to scale so there shouldnt be any nasty surprises. Its a pain in the ass measuring everything but its better than getting the layout wrong. Me too. I dont know if it'll work where it is but I guess I'll find out soon enough. If it doesnt work out then I'll stick it before the TS on the dirty channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Duesentrieb Posted October 25, 2010 Members Share Posted October 25, 2010 Looks cool Ian. I'm looking forward to seeing its progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zozobra Posted October 25, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 25, 2010 I'm aiming to get the layout finished tonight. Then it'll be joy of verifying it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zozobra Posted October 27, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 27, 2010 Nearly done. All thats left to shoe horn on the board:Bridge rectifier and reservoir cap.Heater referenceDC supply for the relays - bridge recto, 4700uf cap and a voltage regulator. The relay supply is tapped off the heaters. Would it be sensible to reference the heaters across the BR? The recto has the two ~ from the heater winding and the -ve terminal is grounded too so I could put the reference resistors from the ~ to the grounded -ve perhaps. If this doesnt make sense I'll rustle up a diagram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SomeoneYouKnew Posted October 27, 2010 Members Share Posted October 27, 2010 Floating the heater supply above ground will require that all the common for the relay coils also be referenced to that point. That really complicates things. Usually relay coils are referenced to ground, if you use footswitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zozobra Posted October 27, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 27, 2010 I'll be referencing the heaters to ground for now, I should haven mentioned that. If its noisy then I'll think about elevating them. So the heaters and the relay will be referenced to (the same) ground. I'm hoping this will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zozobra Posted October 27, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 27, 2010 Put the final order for bits in today. I still need a few WO6 bridge rectifiers but I can source those locally. All the parts should start turning up soon I may cop out and put the relay power supply on a little piece of strip board rather than try and squeeze it on the main board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Casey4s Posted October 29, 2010 Members Share Posted October 29, 2010 Put the final order for bits in today. I still need a few WO6 bridge rectifiers but I can source those locally. All the parts should start turning up soon I may cop out and put the relay power supply on a little piece of strip board rather than try and squeeze it on the main board. Glad to see you are getting started with this buildI am going to do the separate board thing myself so it doesn't tie up real estate on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zozobra Posted October 29, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 29, 2010 Yeah just can't make that circuit space efficient with eyelets. It's way better suited to strip board. Perhaps a 4700u filter is overkill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zozobra Posted October 29, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 29, 2010 Just waiting on wire and hardware now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zozobra Posted November 1, 2010 Author Members Share Posted November 1, 2010 The wire and hardware came over the weekend. Going to drill and swage the board tonight. I May start populating the board too although I'm still feeling the aftermath of halloween so I may wait until tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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