Members valentsgrif Posted April 18, 2008 Members Share Posted April 18, 2008 I'm convinced I need to play 24 3/4" to 24.95" scale length necks. I know about the Gibby J-45, but who else makes a nice North American made acoustic in this neck size? NO parlor or travel gits please. I primarily play w a pick but do some fingerwork also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members simplygoodmusic Posted April 18, 2008 Members Share Posted April 18, 2008 Depends what price range, but I think bourgeois have a short scale sloped shoulder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bransonb Posted April 18, 2008 Members Share Posted April 18, 2008 There are also the Gibson square shoulder dreads: the Hummingbird and Sheryl Crow. If you don't need a dread many of the Martin 000 are short scale . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Freeman Keller Posted April 18, 2008 Members Share Posted April 18, 2008 There are also the Gibson square shoulder dreads: the Hummingbird and Sheryl Crow. If you don't need a dread many of the Martin 000 are short scale . . . Here is the info on which 000's are from the UMGF FAQ OM. All OMs are long scale, 25.4" nut to saddle. 12-fret 000. All 12-fret 000s are long scale (since approximately 1924) except for the Norman Blake models, which are short scale. These models are an exception to the rule, perhaps because they combine a 12-fret neck with a 14-fret 000 size body and are thus one-of-a-kind design models. 14-fret 000: a. All 000s in the 16 Series and below are long scale. b. All 000s in the Standard and Vintage Series are short scale, 24.9" nut to saddle. c. 000s in the Limited and Special Editions vary by model. Most, but not all, are short scale. My D12-28 is short scale (as is my home made 12 string) and my little 0 parlor is really short (24.4) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members moctzal Posted April 18, 2008 Members Share Posted April 18, 2008 Godin's guitars (Seagull, Simon & Patrick, Norman and Art & Lutherie) are all 24.84" scale and most have a nut width of 1.72" with the exception of Seagull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DonK Posted April 18, 2008 Members Share Posted April 18, 2008 Blueridge has a slope-shoulder dread line designed to mimic the J-45 guitars; they're 24.75" Johnson makes a Martin 000-28EC knockoff that's 24.9" Of course there always the real Gibsons and Martins that are short-scale. Gibson has more of them: J-45, J-185, Hummingbird, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Deef Posted April 18, 2008 Members Share Posted April 18, 2008 Taylor Grand Concerts (any acoustic-electric "12" bodies or acoustic "GC"s) are now all shorties. I've got a GC5 and it was exactly the scale my fingers were looking for. 24-7/8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crab_Cake Posted April 18, 2008 Members Share Posted April 18, 2008 sorry to steal this thread but what does the short scale do for tone, sound and the like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members moctzal Posted April 19, 2008 Members Share Posted April 19, 2008 Shorter scale means lower tension means slightly less volume. Also, many short scale guitars I've played sound a bit "plunky." It's hard to say what scale length alone does for tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Freeman Keller Posted April 19, 2008 Members Share Posted April 19, 2008 sorry to steal this thread but what does the short scale do for tone, sound and the like? From the same UMGF FAQ quoted above "As far as tone etc. goes, this subject is of course very subjective. This is a bit of an overgeneralizaiton, but many folks think that the OM has more volume and projection due to the longer scale length, and the 000 has a "Blusier" sound and is easier to play." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members valentsgrif Posted April 19, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 19, 2008 Taylor Grand Concerts (any acoustic-electric "12" bodies or acoustic "GC"s) are now all shorties. I've got a GC5 and it was exactly the scale my fingers were looking for. 24-7/8. This is news to me. I'm going to check em out. Thanks everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shemp Posted April 19, 2008 Members Share Posted April 19, 2008 I have a Martin 000-28EC which has a short scale. Very easy to play. More of a bluesy tone to it. It doesn't sound "plinky" at all, though it lacks the volume of my dreads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knockwood Posted April 19, 2008 Members Share Posted April 19, 2008 http://www.larrivee.com/3_products/products_loadMovie/11%20series/LSV11/load%20movie/LSV11.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members valentsgrif Posted April 19, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 19, 2008 http://www.larrivee.com/3_products/products_loadMovie/11%20series/LSV11/load%20movie/LSV11.html LSV11 equals "love" Is that price on the site the street price????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knockwood Posted April 19, 2008 Members Share Posted April 19, 2008 Is that price on the site the street price????? No, that's the list price. For a good quote on any Larrivee, I would suggest contacting Jason at Notable Guitars. FTR, I have no connection to Notable whatsoever except that I've bought from them before and I think they rock. http://notableguitars.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members moctzal Posted April 19, 2008 Members Share Posted April 19, 2008 LSV11 equals "love"Is that price on the site the street price????? Nope. It'll probably be around 65% of that or so at good dealers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sangemon Posted April 19, 2008 Members Share Posted April 19, 2008 Is that price on the site the street price????? http://www.elderly.com/new_instruments/items/LSV11.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members min7b5 Posted April 19, 2008 Members Share Posted April 19, 2008 I recently ordered a new short scale SCGC 00. I think it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members iago Posted April 19, 2008 Members Share Posted April 19, 2008 Why not just get a J45? They sound tight at first but my 2005 now sounds awesome. And it looks beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members play4him Posted April 19, 2008 Members Share Posted April 19, 2008 I have a Recording King RO-227 for sale on the Acoustic Guitar Forum and the Unofficial Blueridge Guitar Forum. It has a 24.9" Scale Length. You might check it out if you're interested. It's a little more affordable than some of the others mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Broadus Posted April 20, 2008 Members Share Posted April 20, 2008 Godin's guitars (Seagull, Simon & Patrick, Norman and Art & Lutherie) are all 24.84" scale and most have a nut width of 1.72" with the exception of Seagull. I have a Norman ST68 Dread (solid spruce top, solid Indian rosewood back, lam rosewood sides) and a Simon & Patrick Songsmith Folk (solid spruce top, lam cherry back and sides). I love both gits. Very easy to play after lowering the saddles. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members valentsgrif Posted April 20, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 20, 2008 I recently ordered a new short scale SCGC 00. I think it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members maplebbay Posted April 21, 2008 Members Share Posted April 21, 2008 i have three and LOVE the short scale. A Collings OM, Colllings CJ, and a Martin 000-18. Highly recommend them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members play4him Posted April 22, 2008 Members Share Posted April 22, 2008 I now have my Recording King RO-227 for sale on this forum. Here's a few pics. There's more in the For Sale section on this forum.http://members.cox.net/meldridge5/RO2271.JPGhttp://members.cox.net/meldridge5/RO2272.JPGhttp://members.cox.net/meldridge5/RO2273.JPGhttp://members.cox.net/meldridge5/RO2278.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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