Members HankGator Posted July 14, 2008 Members Share Posted July 14, 2008 Pretty neat, if it actually works. Of course, I hope I never need to test it. [YOUTUBE][/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members austikins Posted July 14, 2008 Members Share Posted July 14, 2008 thats a cool trick, but his goatee is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bubbalou Posted July 14, 2008 Members Share Posted July 14, 2008 Haven't tried that but was reading (maybe on here or other forum) where they suggested taking a good grade sponge, soak it, sqeeze is to where there is no dripping water, put it inside of a plastic baggy that you have punched a few holes in using a hand paper punch like you had in school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gary Palmer Posted July 14, 2008 Members Share Posted July 14, 2008 The method in the vid does indeed work, as does the damp sponge and holy bag in case and many other methods work too. My personal favourite is to use a pill bottle with damp sponge inside and holes drilled into the lid. Virtually leak proof and re-usable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HankGator Posted July 14, 2008 Author Members Share Posted July 14, 2008 I certainly like the safety aspects of using the sponge, but aren't we talking about significantly less moisture being transmitted that way compared to an open bowl of water? Would that be enough to undo a hump in the neck, you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gary Palmer Posted July 14, 2008 Members Share Posted July 14, 2008 I certainly like the safety aspects of using the sponge, but aren't we talking about significantly less moisture being transmitted that way compared to an open bowl of water? Would that be enough to undo a hump in the neck, you think? Slow transmission of moisture by using a smaller container is far better for the guitar and a little more controlled than using an open bowl of water. Sudden rises or drops in humidity can spell danger in terms of solid timbered instruments. The pill bottle/sponge bag method is best used during dry periods, or at times when extra humidity is necessary. Both guitar and sponge are best kept inside a hardcase where humidity is far easier to control and kids are least likely to trample or trip upon your treasured instrument. Humidity control can both prevent and cure a number of instances involving dipped fingerboards and problems with soundboards where the cause was too little humidity during storage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members outdoorgb Posted July 14, 2008 Members Share Posted July 14, 2008 OK, put an open bowl of water in my guitar and walk it over to the closet to put in the case??? Common sense here kids. I'll stick to sponge in the bag until I buy an oldy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HankGator Posted July 14, 2008 Author Members Share Posted July 14, 2008 Well, I'm pretty sure you'd be expected to do it all right there at the closet, so as to avoid the walking-around part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members babablowfish Posted July 15, 2008 Members Share Posted July 15, 2008 Why not just use a Dampit which comes with a soundhole cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brokepick Posted July 15, 2008 Members Share Posted July 15, 2008 http://www.taylorguitars.com/see-hear/Video.aspx?file=Humidity_2_High.wmx This is a whole lot safer than a bowl of water in your guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gary Palmer Posted July 15, 2008 Members Share Posted July 15, 2008 Why not just use a Dampit which comes with a soundhole cover? It's up to the individual at the end of the day. The medicine bottle and sponge routine is as old as the hills and works just fine for my situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members totamus Posted July 15, 2008 Members Share Posted July 15, 2008 The bowl of water has a very finite surface area for water evaporation. A sponge has a multi folded surface area which is significantly larger than the surface of the water in the bowl. The amount of area available for evaporation will determine how rapidly the internal humidity gets to 100%. Beyond the rate at which 100% is achieved there is no difference in the method used, as long as it allows for attaining 100%. In any event - Thanks Hank for sharing! I will keep that little gem in my mental bag of tricks for when it is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bubbalou Posted July 15, 2008 Members Share Posted July 15, 2008 The bowl of water has a very finite surface area for water evaporation. A sponge has a multi folded surface area which is significantly larger than the surface of the water in the bowl. The amount of area available for evaporation will determine how rapidly the internal humidity gets to 100%. Beyond the rate at which 100% is achieved there is no difference in the method used, as long as it allows for attaining 100%. In any event - Thanks Hank for sharing! I will keep that little gem in my mental bag of tricks for when it is needed. The bag with a sponge has maybe 6-8 1/4" holes punched in it with the end of the bag sealed. Doesn't this make it finite as well?A bowl he used had at least a 2" or greater surface area of evaporation which makes it much less finite than the 6 small holes punched in a bag.Can't see your observation as being valid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members totamus Posted July 15, 2008 Members Share Posted July 15, 2008 the air in guitar attains 100% humidity. Makes no difference if the guitar is suspended over the surface of the ocean or has a small sponge inside. 100% is as far as it can go. The caveat I included is "as long as it allows for attaining 100%". A plastic bag with insufficient holes to allow for attaining 100% would be the exception. It may seem counterintuitive, but 100% is 100%, the air does not care what method gets it there, or how much water is in reserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HankGator Posted July 15, 2008 Author Members Share Posted July 15, 2008 I was less concerned about the rate of evaporation than the amount of water available for evaporation, since if you drain the sponge until it no longer drips it would seem you wouldn't have as much moisture available and it would dry out relatively quickly compared to a bowl. That said, I would prefer the sponge method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bubbalou Posted July 15, 2008 Members Share Posted July 15, 2008 the air in guitar attains 100% humidity. Makes no difference if the guitar is suspended over the surface of the ocean or has a small sponge inside. 100% is as far as it can go.The caveat I included is "as long as it allows for attaining 100%". A plastic bag with insufficient holes to allow for attaining 100% would be the exception. It may seem counterintuitive, but 100% is 100%, the air does not care what method gets it there, or how much water is in reserve. Thanks totamus, I misunderstood your comment. I thought you were saying the sponge would allow too much moisture as compared to the cup.I understand your intent now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kwakatak Posted July 15, 2008 Members Share Posted July 15, 2008 Actually, that's a pretty aggressive may of treating an under-humidified guitar. If this guy seriously have a 1969 Gibson Hummingbird he'd know that. I'm glad it worked for him, but frankly I'd have thought twice about putting an open container inside a $2000+ box. 2 or 3 dampits over a week or two would have worked just as well. That's what they did on that tutorial over at the Taylor web site - but that was a cracked top, not for what this guy's issue was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bubbalou Posted July 15, 2008 Members Share Posted July 15, 2008 Actually, that's a pretty aggressive may of treating an under-humidified guitar. If this guy seriously have a 1969 Gibson Hummingbird he'd know that. I'm glad it worked for him, but frankly I'd have thought twice about putting an open container inside a $2000+ box. 2 or 3 dampits over a week or two would have worked just as well. That's what they did on that tutorial over at the Taylor web site - but that was a cracked top, not for what this guy's issue was. I cringed at the thought of doing that to an expensive Gibson like that.aggressive I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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