Members slapnutz Posted August 27, 2005 Members Share Posted August 27, 2005 Looking for locking tuners. Any suggestions? Also looking for string trees. Cant decide between Graphtech or Roller trees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members numrologst Posted August 28, 2005 Members Share Posted August 28, 2005 i like sperzel or schaller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jdjonsson Posted August 28, 2005 Members Share Posted August 28, 2005 And I like Grovers. There you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members flames Posted August 28, 2005 Members Share Posted August 28, 2005 I would find some schallers if you can...sperzels are cool but they lack in mass so they aren't the best when it comes to tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kap'n Posted August 28, 2005 Members Share Posted August 28, 2005 "Lack in mass" can be a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bracky Posted August 28, 2005 Members Share Posted August 28, 2005 Grover http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tuners/Guitar,_solid_peghead/Grover_Locking_Guitar_Machines.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members _pete_ Posted August 28, 2005 Members Share Posted August 28, 2005 Planet Waves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ZCat Posted August 28, 2005 Members Share Posted August 28, 2005 I'm not digging the Sperzels I put on my McCarty, they will not stay in tune for {censored}. My Am. Deluxe strat stays in tune just fine:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slapnutz Posted August 28, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 28, 2005 O.K. then Schaller, Sperzel, Grover and Planet waves. That about covers it. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members flyguitar Posted August 28, 2005 Members Share Posted August 28, 2005 Got experience with schaller and grover, imo schaller is more reliable. do not have experience with the others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oyaji Posted August 28, 2005 Members Share Posted August 28, 2005 Originally posted by flames I would find some schallers if you can...sperzels are cool but they lack in mass so they aren't the best when it comes to tone. Sperzels aren't made out of aluminum for nothing. Less mass in the tuners, the better. Difficult to install, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slapnutz Posted August 28, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 28, 2005 Originally posted by Oyaji Sperzels aren't made out of aluminum for nothing. Less mass in the tuners, the better. Difficult to install, though. Why's that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Danocoustic Posted August 28, 2005 Members Share Posted August 28, 2005 Originally posted by slapnutz Why's that? I believe he's referring to the locating pin you have to drill for. Schallers have them too. Grovers don't. Not sure about the Planet Waves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members flames Posted August 28, 2005 Members Share Posted August 28, 2005 No..actually less mass on the headstock = less tone and sustain...thats why schaller is much better...but they are pretty much out of business for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LaXu Posted August 28, 2005 Members Share Posted August 28, 2005 Anything but Sperzels. Don't take me wrong, they're not bad tuners by any means, but the competitors simply offer better ones. The only guitar I own that has locking tuners has Sperzels and they are propably the least accurate tuners on any of my guitars. The higher gear ratio Grover and Gotoh tuners on my other guitars are simply more comfortable to use. The locking thumbscrew on the back of the Sperzels is also not very comfortable for the old digits. As for string trees, personally I've had better luck with the Graphtech stuff than rollers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bruce Bennett Posted August 28, 2005 Members Share Posted August 28, 2005 I like my H.A.Z. tuners pretty darn good. They look like vintage Strat tuners, but of course, they lock and the Post heights are adjustable so string trees are no longer neccessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members geneb2450 Posted August 28, 2005 Members Share Posted August 28, 2005 I've got Sperzel's on my Carvin and Grover's on my Epi DOT. The Sperzel's require a hole drilled in the back of the headstock for a small alignment pin. The Grover's were a drop in replacement on the Epi. The Sperzles have a thumbscrew on the bottom that you tighten to lock the string. If you over tighten you break the string. I've done it to a high E once or twice. They also have smooth action, but a lower gear ratio than the Grover's. The Grover's are heavier, and they stick up about 1/4" ~ 1/2" higher above the headstock than Sperzels. It looks a bit funky. But they have a higher (more fine) tuning ratio than the Sperzels, and the string locks in place wih an internal cam. Never snapped a string on them. All in all I prefer the Grovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lefchr Posted August 28, 2005 Members Share Posted August 28, 2005 don't get sprezels, I have them they broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slapnutz Posted August 28, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 28, 2005 Thanks for all the good info. They all seem to be comparable quality but I'm leaning toward Grovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vexed73 Posted August 28, 2005 Members Share Posted August 28, 2005 I like planet waves tuners and this is the guy I buy them from good deal if you ask me. http://cgi.ebay.com/Planet-Waves-Auto-Trim-TUNING-MACHINES-pegs-PWAT-331L_W0QQitemZ7346494652QQcategoryZ41434QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemhttp://cgi.ebay.com/Planet-Waves-Auto-Trim-TUNING-MACHINES-pegs-PWAT-6R1-NW_W0QQitemZ7345332064QQcategoryZ41434QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BAZGUITARMAN Posted August 28, 2005 Members Share Posted August 28, 2005 I use Sperzels and have had good luck out of them. No problems at all. Some of the other manufacturers have finer tuning ratios if that`s important to you. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rgt320 Posted August 28, 2005 Members Share Posted August 28, 2005 My vote (from my experience) would be for either Grovers or Schallers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Flepio Posted August 28, 2005 Members Share Posted August 28, 2005 I have Schallers in my custom strat, they seem to work well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members disco_fluid Posted September 7, 2005 Members Share Posted September 7, 2005 i just bought sperzels for my tele, but reading this thread is making me think twice about installing them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vmanmurph Posted September 7, 2005 Members Share Posted September 7, 2005 I asked this question to the forum about 6 months ago. I have a Godin SD with a non locking tremelo. The original tuners that were on the guitar were sub-par at best. It wouldn't stay in tune for even a string bend. Here's what I did. I contacted Godin to find the diameter of the existing hole which was 10mm. Low and behold Schaller locking tuners were also 10mm. They were a direct fit (i.e. no alteration). One poster said that the Schallers had a pin like the Sperzel. Mine however didn't?!?I was looking on the cheap and found them at Warmouth for $8 a tuner. Now the guitar stays in tune better. I can do slight vibrato, but not divebomb work so I'm happy. Anyway check with your manufacturer first then go for it. I say go for the Schaller. Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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