Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted November 7, 2006 Author Moderators Share Posted November 7, 2006 Originally posted by MojoFilter So, what's the story?...what have you tried, and what are you throwing in there? Had to go for the Fat 50s, found a set at a price I couldn't refuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members paul44 Posted November 7, 2006 Members Share Posted November 7, 2006 Yay! Fat 50's! So how are you liking them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted November 7, 2006 Author Moderators Share Posted November 7, 2006 Originally posted by paul44 Yay! Fat 50's! So how are you liking them? Nah, not here yet, and the guitar still needs a neck as well....as soon as it's altogether, I'll be back here to "report":thu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted January 28, 2007 Author Moderators Share Posted January 28, 2007 Hmmm, so Fat 50s:( Me no likee.....way way too bassy for my liking and I cant EQ to anything I really like, I've only been playing them a while this evening, but after playing my 70s style Strat with the VVG P90 Strat size pups in. I don't think these pups are my cup of tea, but quite a few HC reviewers say there's a lot to play with in terms of pickups heights. I don't hear "bell like chimes" or "glassy highs", I actually find them muddy:cry: dark.....I think Fat as in couch potato......I'm deeply disappointed. Consolation is that I'll be able to get back what I paid for them, but pissed off that I have to start looking again:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ibanezman06 Posted January 28, 2007 Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 sorry to hear that if you found them too bassy, you probably won't like the Texas Specials either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeremy3 Posted January 28, 2007 Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 I've only ever played the '69 pickups, on my '69 CS. They sound great, but I can't really say they're better than the others you've put up there, as I have heard them. But the '69s do sound great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GarysBlues Posted January 28, 2007 Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 I own the CS-69, CS-Texas Specials, and the CS-54's. The 54's are arguably Fenders best pick-up. BESIDE their CS-60's which isn't a pick-up they sell over the counter and ONLY go in their CS Strats. 60 Relic? Thats what in their! ...Anyway the 54's give you the Chimmy, Glassy, Clear, Vintage Strat Tone and are similiar to the 69's only have a little more mid-range output. The 69's really do not have anything going in the midrange dept. But their highs and lows are so damn good sounding. The Texas Specials are the over wound mid-range soaked, med-high ouput offering by Fender. I have gone through several sets that I didn't care for till I bought my 2nd SRV. The ones in this SRV are just Super. They are not as mid-range emphisised as the other's I've had. Much more balenced, with that edgy, raw, attitide.[This set I LOVE and would NEVER part with] The 69's, and the TxSpc's, I left stock throughout the Strats. On the 50th Anniversary, I wanted to add some attitude to the bridge, so I dropped a 500K pot in and wired it to Blend the Neck and Bridge pick-ups. I love the set-up like that and really like the 54's that much more with the bridge this way now. The bridge pup almost hits Tele bridge range now. But the 54 set is the set i would say to go with. For Vintage Fender you can't go wrong with them. And evertone I know that has played both Vinatge Strats and the 54's absolutly LOVE'S the 54's!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jrockbridge Posted January 28, 2007 Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 Hmmm, so Fat 50s:( Me no likee.....way way too bassy for my liking and I cant EQ to anything I really like, I've only been playing them a while this evening, but after playing my 70s style Strat with the VVG P90 Strat size pups in. I don't think these pups are my cup of tea, but quite a few HC reviewers say there's a lot to play with in terms of pickups heights. I don't hear "bell like chimes" or "glassy highs", I actually find them muddy:cry: dark.....I think Fat as in couch potato......I'm deeply disappointed. Consolation is that I'll be able to get back what I paid for them, but pissed off that I have to start looking again:rolleyes: I'm sorry to hear that. I wonder if the Fat 50's would sound better in an Ash Strat? I think you would like Lindy Fralin's Vintage Hot Pups...I certainly do. I hear everything you describe in my Alder Strat, ""bell like chimes, glassy highs," and a certain woody tone. You can find Fralin's website and phone number online. You can email or call them. If you describe what tone you are looking for, they will steer you to the right pup. I have actually spoken with Lindy himself, and the man likes to talk. He is very helpful. I bought my pups at acmeguitarworks.com because it was a great deal. I was happy with their service. To add to your confusion, they also carry Lollar pups. I have never heard the Lollar in person, but many people swear by them. Best of luck in your search for "that" tone. Also, check out the Tone Quest write ups. They have some informative reviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GarysBlues Posted January 28, 2007 Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 BTW..I never installed the Fat-50's in ANY Strat YET! But THOSE are NEXT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GarysBlues Posted January 28, 2007 Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 Ratae, Put the 54's in! Seriously.......And if you want even less attitude and more Glassy, Chimmey. Stratty Tone go with the CS-69's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members One-armed Alec Posted January 29, 2007 Members Share Posted January 29, 2007 I have the standard delta-tones and wouldn't have it any other way (I've tried Kinmans and Bare Knuckles). It's all in the amp, folks . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted January 29, 2007 Author Moderators Share Posted January 29, 2007 I have the standard delta-tones and wouldn't have it any other way (I've tried Kinmans and Bare Knuckles). It's all in the amp, folks . Delta tones? That what comes in the Am Series? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members One-armed Alec Posted January 29, 2007 Members Share Posted January 29, 2007 Delta tones? That what comes in the Am Series? They're the ones. Strattiest pickups I've heard, so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted January 29, 2007 Author Moderators Share Posted January 29, 2007 They're the ones. Strattiest pickups I've heard, so far. The GFS Greybottoms I had kicked the bottom of these Custom Shops.......maybe they're just not "my sound". You'll have to cop a listen of my swamp ash guitar one of these days, with the VVGs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members One-armed Alec Posted January 29, 2007 Members Share Posted January 29, 2007 The GFS Greybottoms I had kicked the bottom of these Custom Shops.......maybe they're just not "my sound". You'll have to cop a listen of my swamp ash guitar one of these days, with the VVGs. Fair enough, but I wouldn't judge the delta-tones by the custom shops. All very subjective, etc, etc - but in my experience with Strat pickups, 'more expensive' most definitely does not mean 'more better' . Then again, I like a bright, snappy Strat tone. If you prefer a warmer, more rolled-off, middy tone - the BK Apaches do this very well - a function of the Alnico III. Alnico V is where it's at for me with Strat pickups . Yeah, I'd love to hear your swamp ash - gaunnae post some clips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted January 29, 2007 Author Moderators Share Posted January 29, 2007 Fair enough, but I wouldn't judge the delta-tones by the custom shops. All very subjective, etc, etc - but in my experience with Strat pickups, 'more expensive' most definitely does not mean 'more better' . Then again, I like a bright, snappy Strat tone. If you prefer a warmer, more rolled-off, middy tone - the BK Apaches do this very well - a function of the Alnico III. Alnico V is where it's at for me with Strat pickups . Yeah, I'd love to hear your swamp ash - gaunnae post some clips? No, I agree, I think the Delta tones would have done fine, but so many people banged on about the Fat 50s that I thought they had to be tried. if I had paid full UK retail for them, I'd be crosser than a cross thing with a PhD in crossness from Cross College, Cambridge, but hey, I'll just sell em......OK, they're on eBay already. I don't like warm, I like trebley......the buckers I just had Pete wind for me are BMT 5, 6, 9. Maybe I need to go ceramic or Al V at least......Al IIs are pretty trebley aint they? Post some clips, hell I was gonna post the guitar:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members One-armed Alec Posted January 29, 2007 Members Share Posted January 29, 2007 No, I agree, I think the Delta tones would have done fine, but so many people banged on about the Fat 50s that I thought they had to be tried. if I had paid full UK retail for them, I'd be crosser than a cross thing with a PhD in crossness from Cross College, Cambridge, but hey, I'll just sell em......OK, they're on eBay already. I don't like warm, I like trebley......the buckers I just had Pete wind for me are BMT 5, 6, 9. Maybe I need to go ceramic or Al V at least......Al IIs are pretty trebley aint they?Post some clips, hell I was gonna post the guitar:cool:As I understand it, Al II is brighter than Al III , but softer than Al V. Mind you, as you know yourself, there are other factors... composition of wire, gauge of wire, windings... P.S. You wouldn't post that guitar anywhere - it's got to be a keeper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members One-armed Alec Posted January 29, 2007 Members Share Posted January 29, 2007 P.S. Just read the rest of the thread, didn't realise it was started last year. From all that's been said, I would say that - from all the Fender pickups - the CS 69s would have been the best bet for you. They are, allegedly, the most dynamic and punchy of the lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted January 29, 2007 Author Moderators Share Posted January 29, 2007 What didn't you like about the fat '50s Sean, I'm curious?P.S. You wouldn't post that guitar anywhere - it's got to be a keeper! I think I misunderstood the term "fat", and thought "hot";) Really too much bias to the bass end of the spectrum, although I've played a fair few LP type guitars this is the first time I've experienced "muddy"....and on a damn Strat. I was thinking of an exchange or summat....it's a shame our postal system is so bloody expensive, it'd be 12 quid each way....what do you play anyway again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted January 29, 2007 Author Moderators Share Posted January 29, 2007 P.S. Just read the rest of the thread, didn't realise it was started last year.From all that's been said, I would say that - from all the Fender pickups - the CS 69s would have been the best bet for you. They are, allegedly, the most dynamic and punchy of the lot. From what Gris said all the CS pups are the same apart from the 50s neck and the 54s....or summat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members One-armed Alec Posted January 29, 2007 Members Share Posted January 29, 2007 I think I misunderstood the term "fat", and thought "hot";) Really too much bias to the bass end of the spectrum, although I've played a fair few LP type guitars this is the first time I've experienced "muddy"....and on a damn Strat. I was thinking of an exchange or summat....it's a shame our postal system is so bloody expensive, it'd be 12 quid each way....what do you play anyway again?I play a bog-standard American Series Strat. I've learned my lesson after the Kinman/BKP fiasco, so I'm going to leave the pickups in that one alone. However, at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members One-armed Alec Posted January 29, 2007 Members Share Posted January 29, 2007 P.S. Perhaps I'm reading you wrong, but are you not getting on with the home-build swamp ash Strat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted January 29, 2007 Author Moderators Share Posted January 29, 2007 P.S. Perhaps I'm reading you wrong, but are you not getting on with the home-build swamp ash Strat? Oh no........it's probably too good, everything on it wets on this guitar which is all Fender apart from the neck, it'd just be good to hear what a decent musician thought of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted January 29, 2007 Author Moderators Share Posted January 29, 2007 the Kinman/BKP fiasco, Pray...do tell? You found them then eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members One-armed Alec Posted January 29, 2007 Members Share Posted January 29, 2007 it'd just be good to hear what a decent musician thought of it. A decent musician? This is where we need someone else to join in with the thread, right? So what's in this Fender Strat now, pickup-wise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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