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  • P90 vs. Single Coil

    Does anyone have any clips or videos comparing the tones you can get from them? I've never had the oppurtunity to use a guitar with P90s. I know they're technically Single Coils, but you can't really get the 'single coil tone' with P90s, right?

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    You get the same note-to-note definition and clarity, plus the same snap, you would get out of a Fender-style single coil, because there is no other coil to mix it with and muddy it up. And, vintage spec'ed, they can sound plenty bright and clean. They really are single coil in nature, just with a lot of mids that give it an overall fat tone.

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    • #3
      you can ONLY get single coil tones from P90s, but they won't be traditional Fender-y single coil tones.

      they sound beefier and middier. much more aggressive. the good ones also have this "clang" to the attack that sounds awesome.
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      • #4
        Anyone have any examples of this?

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        • #5
          Yup...

          Mountain... "Mississippi Queen"



          Love me some P-90 rock tone!

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            • #7
              The Who's Live At Leeds is probably one of the best examples of what they can do.
              On the other hand, they sound almost like a piano when clean through a good amp.
              P90s work exceptionally well with Vox amps. Listen to John Lennon and George Harrison playing Casinos through AC30s. Yowza. That's probably some of my favorite P90 sounds right there.

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              We're not in Kansas anymore.

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              • #8
                The guitar sounds from WHO - Live at Leeds are considered a pretty good representation of the P-90 tone... This is a weird vid, but you get some idea of the tone of Pete's SG with P-90's.



                Here's just a recording of "I'm Free" from the same show. Great guitar sounds!



                I Can't Explain from Live at Leeds... sound only.



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                • #9
                  Here's Get Back and Don't Let Me Down from the famous Beatles Rooftop Concert... John's rockin his Casino with P-90's



                  I miss that guy...

                  M
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                  • #10
                    Well, I just got my first P90 guitar and it's got it! I'll do a NGD when I get some pics, but I let the cat out of the bag in the stack thread....

                    FWIW another classic P90 tone comes from Martin Barre of Jethro Tull
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                    • #11
                      Well, I just got my first P90 guitar and it's got it! I'll do a NGD when I get some pics, but I let the cat out of the bag in the stack thread....

                      FWIW another classic P90 tone comes from Martin Barre of Jethro Tull


                      I'm thinking of getting one of the GFS jazzmaster copies, or a MIM Jazzmaster.

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                      • #12
                        I'm thinking of getting one of the GFS jazzmaster copies, or a MIM Jazzmaster.


                        Well, the Fender Jazzmaster pickups are NOT P-90's, made different and sound different. Instead of the big double bar magnets the P-90 has, the Jazzmaster PU uses magnetic pole pieces, like a Strat or Tele single coil and uses a different wire gauge. As a result the Jazzmaster PU is much closer to Strat in tone, think surf music.

                        Don't know what the GFS will use, i think Jay said real JM-style PU's would be another 6 months away.

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                        • #13
                          Well, the Fender Jazzmaster pickups are NOT P-90's, made different and sound different. Instead of the big double bar magnets the P-90 has, the Jazzmaster PU uses magnetic pole pieces, like a Strat or Tele single coil and uses a different wire gauge. As a result the Jazzmaster PU is much closer to Strat in tone, think surf music.

                          Don't know what the GFS will use, i think Jay said real JM-style PU's would be another 6 months away.


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                          Thanks

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                          • #14
                            p90s are just way fatter. you won't get that tinny little sound out of them. it's practically night and day.

                            I'd actually say if this is a line between the sound of a single coil and humbucker

                            SC -------------------------------- HB


                            I'd put the p90 sound about here:


                            SC -------------------p90---------- HB
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                            • #15
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                              Thanks


                              In the '50's and '60's, every builder respected each others proprietary designs. Fender never copied Gibson's pickup designs,... nor did Valco (Supro/Airline), DeArmond, Gretsch, Danelectro, even Teisco.

                              All of these companies had PU's that were proprietary in size (you couldn't easily swap from one to another). And all sounded very different.

                              In the '70's, the aftermarket builders like Seymour Duncan and DiMarzio's pretty much standardized the Gibson humbucker and Strat single coil and the landscape changed fast (partly because of the introduction of clones in the '70's). This gentrified the PU market, all those unique PU's and unique tones died off. A few exceptions are Jazzmaster, Tele, P-90 and (later revived) Dano lipstick PU's

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