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  • #61






    Quote Originally Posted by vcnyls
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    That's a nice option. Thanks!



    That Vox stand is absurdly priced! $195 for that metal stand? I wish I had access to a metal shop - I could make that thing in an hour.



    Anything else? I think the ampendage stand is nice but I also may work on a design of my own.




    I totally agree...it's for the Vox purist who has everything, I suppose-including money to burn
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    • #62






      Quote Originally Posted by GAS Man
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      On a different aspect of this topic, I generally don't like to elevate amps since I usually hear a large drop in the perceived amount of bass. I do think that may depend upon the amp. Example I have a Roland Cube 20XL that sounded more bassy to me when I plopped it on my desktop, but everything else sounds better on the floor. Now I know the point here in this thread is to help out with the neighbors, but I'm wondering what sonic advantages (other than as a stage monitor) some of you folks perceive by using stands. I mean, I gave a better one (than the one I mention above) away for a pack of strings because I didn't like the sonic affect.







      For most bedroom players there isn't much of an advantage, unless you're trying to cut down on vibrations like the OP. The real advantage of an amp stand is that it points the speaker at your ear, so that you actually hear what's coming out of your amp. Guitar amps, by nature, are very directional. So, unless you're sitting across the room from your amp, you're not likely hearing the direct sound coming from the speaker. This means that you're turning it up louder than you need to, and you probably have more high end dialed in than you actually need. This mostly effects you in live situations, where others may be in the path of your too-loud ice-pick-spewing tone of death, and you may even have it mic'ed up through the PA. It also cuts down or eliminated reflections from the floor, if it's on a reflective surface, which will drastically change your tone as you hear it.



      You will lose some low end. For a bedroom player this may be perceived as a problem. For somebody who plays live, it's not a big deal at all. That's what the bass player is there for. Also, low end in a guitar is more commonly referred to as "mud" when it's mixed together with all the instruments. With the amp on the floor (stage), it's exciting the resonant frequencies. These frequencies are also being excited by the drums, the bass, people jumping around, etc. The frequencies are then usually transferred through every mic on stage, creating - more mud. These are the frequencies that the sound guy will first reach for and cut out of the PA.









      Quote Originally Posted by vcnyls
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      Ok, I decided I'm going to build my own out of some wood hats sitting in the loading dock of my apt building (building is an old factory turned into lofts so the loading dock is still there and people toss their crap in there). Working on a design now. Will post pics when I build.



      Thanks to all or the input - I'm going to use one of these ideas in the design.




      Wood hats? If you mean wire spools, it might not get the desired effect you're looking for. Both those and the fancy wooden stands that somebody posted, probably would make pretty bad stands for isolation, as they are large surfaces that will resonate from the amp's sound, and transmit more vibrations through the floor.



      I would stick with one of the ultimate/on stage/hercules stands and put them on carpet and foam to eliminate as many vibrations as possible.

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      • #63






        Quote Originally Posted by GAS Man
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        On a different aspect of this topic, I generally don't like to elevate amps since I usually hear a large drop in the perceived amount of bass. I do think that may depend upon the amp. Example I have a Roland Cube 20XL that sounded more bassy to me when I plopped it on my desktop, but everything else sounds better on the floor. Now I know the point here in this thread is to help out with the neighbors, but I'm wondering what sonic advantages (other than as a stage monitor) some of you folks perceive by using stands. I mean, I gave a better one (than the one I mention above) away for a pack of strings because I didn't like the sonic affect.







        For most bedroom players there isn't much of an advantage, unless you're trying to cut down on vibrations like the OP. The real advantage of an amp stand is that it points the speaker at your ear, so that you actually hear what's coming out of your amp. Guitar amps, by nature, are very directional. So, unless you're sitting across the room from your amp, you're not likely hearing the direct sound coming from the speaker. This means that you're turning it up louder than you need to, and you probably have more high end dialed in than you actually need. This mostly effects you in live situations, where others may be in the path of your too-loud ice-pick-spewing tone of death, and you may even have it mic'ed up through the PA. It also cuts down or eliminated reflections from the floor, if it's on a reflective surface, which will drastically change your tone as you hear it.



        You will lose some low end. For a bedroom player this may be perceived as a problem. For somebody who plays live, it's not a big deal at all. That's what the bass player is there for. Also, low end in a guitar is more commonly referred to as "mud" when it's mixed together with all the instruments. With the amp on the floor (stage), it's exciting the resonant frequencies. These frequencies are also being excited by the drums, the bass, people jumping around, etc. The frequencies are then usually transferred through every mic on stage, creating - more mud. These are the frequencies that the sound guy will first reach for and cut out of the PA.









        Quote Originally Posted by vcnyls
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        Ok, I decided I'm going to build my own out of some wood hats sitting in the loading dock of my apt building (building is an old factory turned into lofts so the loading dock is still there and people toss their crap in there). Working on a design now. Will post pics when I build.



        Thanks to all or the input - I'm going to use one of these ideas in the design.




        Wood hats? If you mean wire spools, it might not get the desired effect you're looking for. Both those and the fancy wooden stands that somebody posted, probably would make pretty bad stands for isolation, as they are large surfaces that will resonate from the amp's sound, and transmit more vibrations through the floor.



        I would stick with one of the ultimate/on stage/hercules stands and put them on carpet and foam to eliminate as many vibrations as possible.

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        • #64






          Quote Originally Posted by Special J
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          Wood hats? If you mean wire spools, it might not get the desired effect you're looking for. Both those and the fancy wooden stands that somebody posted, probably would make pretty bad stands for isolation, as they are large surfaces that will resonate from the amp's sound, and transmit more vibrations through the floor.



          I would stick with one of the ultimate/on stage/hercules stands and put them on carpet and foam to eliminate as many vibrations as possible.




          Ha, that must have been an iPad auto-correct - I'm not sure the exact work I intended but I there is some leftover lumber in the loading dock that I'm thinking of using. My bad.
          - Gibson ES-335
          - Gibson Hummingbird
          - Fender Strat MIM
          - Ovation Tangent & Tangent Bass
          - Vox AC15C1 - British Racing Green

          F-Holes







          Originally Posted by GreatDane


          the player plays, but the instrument should inspire.

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          • #65






            Quote Originally Posted by Special J
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            Wood hats? If you mean wire spools, it might not get the desired effect you're looking for. Both those and the fancy wooden stands that somebody posted, probably would make pretty bad stands for isolation, as they are large surfaces that will resonate from the amp's sound, and transmit more vibrations through the floor.



            I would stick with one of the ultimate/on stage/hercules stands and put them on carpet and foam to eliminate as many vibrations as possible.




            Ha, that must have been an iPad auto-correct - I'm not sure the exact work I intended but I there is some leftover lumber in the loading dock that I'm thinking of using. My bad.
            - Gibson ES-335
            - Gibson Hummingbird
            - Fender Strat MIM
            - Ovation Tangent & Tangent Bass
            - Vox AC15C1 - British Racing Green

            F-Holes







            Originally Posted by GreatDane


            the player plays, but the instrument should inspire.

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            • #66






              Quote Originally Posted by kit_strong
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              Another option, although nowhere near as sexy, is an Auralex Monitor Platform






              Yes, that is what I would suggest. Here's something similar to that which Kit posted: http://www.audimutesoundproofing.com...dampening.aspx



              A metal stand is still going to transfer vibrations to the floor.

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              • #67






                Quote Originally Posted by kit_strong
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                Another option, although nowhere near as sexy, is an Auralex Monitor Platform






                Yes, that is what I would suggest. Here's something similar to that which Kit posted: http://www.audimutesoundproofing.com...dampening.aspx



                A metal stand is still going to transfer vibrations to the floor.

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                • #68












                  i have come to the conclusion that he is some form of god. no mere mortal has that many guitars/pedals/amp/anything. "It boggles my mind. His collection is the most glorious and true expression of GAS.To each his own though. Amazing collection of beauties. It takes some seriously messed up OCD to compile a collection like that.I hate BBreaker. Damn, I hate him.Suck it.We learned that bbreaker is some sort of god. A god of whine.fk this guy.
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                  • #69












                    i have come to the conclusion that he is some form of god. no mere mortal has that many guitars/pedals/amp/anything. "It boggles my mind. His collection is the most glorious and true expression of GAS.To each his own though. Amazing collection of beauties. It takes some seriously messed up OCD to compile a collection like that.I hate BBreaker. Damn, I hate him.Suck it.We learned that bbreaker is some sort of god. A god of whine.fk this guy.
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                    • #70
                      Printer stand into a amp stand.



                      “One who loves & understands nature will never be alone & will never be afraid.”
                      -Rachel Carson-

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                      • #71
                        Printer stand into a amp stand.



                        “One who loves & understands nature will never be alone & will never be afraid.”
                        -Rachel Carson-

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                        • Mr Temporary
                          Mr Temporary commented
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                          Actually, not all that bad an idea. It's almost like one of those Enhancer stands:

                          Enhancer Stand

                           

                          I made something like this for my old Peavey Bandit. Between having the angle fire up to my ears instead of my ankles, and redirecting the sound from the back of the amp out the front, I really liked what it did. Problem with my stand was that the vinyl wore off too easily. It would have been better if I had just painted it or done the truck liner stuff.

                          BanditStand

                           

                          Doesn't help much with vibrations through the floor, so I'd probably recommend sitting it on top of one of the Auralex things or the equivalent.

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                      • #72






                        Quote Originally Posted by dparr
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                        Printer stand into a amp stand.







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                        • #73
                          Used a milk crate until I decided that:



                          A) I wanted the amp higher so I could diddle it without bending over.



                          B) There was valuable floor real estate under the crate.



                          So I invested $20 in one of the waist high jobs from MF.
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                          • #74
                            My admittedly not very elegant solution have always been to lift the amp up on a chair when I play. Nice decoupling from the floor and the last appartment was small enough that I prefered not to have an amp stand take up room as well

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                            • #75
                              I have my Ampeg Jet on a guitar stand like this. Actually the stand has a neck support too, but I took it off so it looks like this one. I recall reading reviews when I was shopping that it worked great as an amp stand. Sorry I don't have a pic, but believe me it works. If you are serious about a cheap and clean solution like this I will snap a pic and upload it tonight when I am at home.



                              http://www.musiciansfriend.com/acces...c-guitar-stand



                              Originally Posted by wedgehed II


                              Instead of searching for intelligent life in the universe, NASA should send a probe to this thread.

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