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  • #31
    Originally posted by BlueFusion
    [QUOTE]Originally posted by BryanMichael


    Well now that was a well thought out response..


    But I see you are using the Rockmaster- thus I cannot further help you.

    I had one.>>

    Thank you, but I don't quite understand your dislike for the rockmaster, personal taste? I actually prefer it over the tri for lead stuff, it's quieter, less flubby, and doesn't cost so damn much(big reason). I do like the clean better on the tri but I've been on the bad side of po' since I bought it. I grew up with a peavey amp so maybe I'm a bit biased towards their tone. If I was rich, sure I'd try lots of other preamps but this will do for now.



    <<Actually, it seems to me that most people that are disappointed by this stuff are really hi-gain users that are trying desperately to get the sound of boiling rectos and 7 string guitars.
    I have tons of experience, but I'm more into traditional lo-gain tones.

    Hope it was helpful- and as always, trust your ears! But understand that it is your subjective take on something. A "valid" criticism is "the distortion had too much high end for my tastes no matter how much I played with the EQ"
    a "non valid" criticism is "The distortion fu@cking sucks donkey balls- my recto on 12 kicks the **************** out of it. This processor sounds nothing like Metallica">>


    I've been into guitar for nearly 14 years now and I've come to like alot of different types of tones. I don't care much for the nu-metal recto tone at all. I favor stuff like the mesa mark series sounds used on older metal albums, SRV type tones(los lonely boys' tone is also a good example), prestine cleans on an electric, acoustic and even resonator guitars catch my ear.

    You can definatly see the maturity difference in the two review examples you posted above. As always though, I'll continue to get an 'idea' about a unit from reviews but I'll decied for myself if I like it when it's in front of me.


    Thanks again,


    Yeah man I was just kiddin' ya a bit.
    I didn;t really like the Rockmaster because I couldn;t get a really LOW gain "breakup" tone out of it. It sounded fine at higher settings, kinda Marshally but less "boxy"
    B
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    • #32
      Originally posted by BryanMichael


      Yeah man I was just kiddin' ya a bit.
      I didn;t really like the Rockmaster because I couldn;t get a really LOW gain "breakup" tone out of it. It sounded fine at higher settings, kinda Marshally but less "boxy"
      B


      That's cool, to each his own. To be honest, the ultra gain channel is all that really impresses me about it. I just got a rocktron pro Q and that thing helped beyond words. The eq in the rockmaster is kinda lacking on the distortion channels, this pro Q thing makes up for it.

      The crunch channel is ok but the clean channel is missing headroom and tightness IMO that is. This is why I hope the gt pro will fill in these area's

      If you want marshally type sound, try an ada mp1 with the three tube mod, that thing makes very very convincing old van halen and randy rhoads tones even over the computer's speakers. Now I can't say if it can do the ''breakup'' tone your after but it does have the marshall sound. I plan to get one and if it does, I'll let ya know.

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      • #33
        Although they are interesting to read, I tend to not get excited about the reviews. I read them, just to find out if there is a bad trend about a device, or if a majority of people hate this or love that. It is a good basis for deriving some crude statistics from a population of people, but H-C evals are almost always, not to be insulting, written by amateurs who have distinct personal loyalties or disloyalties and like to vent them.

        Shoot, even evals written by professional journalists in mags like Guitar Player have to be read skeptically.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by dkitts2002
          Although they are interesting to read, I tend to not get excited about the reviews. I read them, just to find out if there is a bad trend about a device, or if a majority of people hate this or love that. It is a good basis for deriving some crude statistics from a population of people, but H-C evals are almost always, not to be insulting, written by amateurs who have distinct personal loyalties or disloyalties and like to vent them.

          Shoot, even evals written by professional journalists in mags like Guitar Player have to be read skeptically.


          Oh no doubt there, alot of them really must be taken with a ''grain of salt'' so to speak. Still, I enjoy reading them even if I sometimes find them more amusing than helpful in the decision department. It's a good resourse to have none the less.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by BlueFusion


            That's cool, to each his own. To be honest, the ultra gain channel is all that really impresses me about it. I just got a rocktron pro Q and that thing helped beyond words. The eq in the rockmaster is kinda lacking on the distortion channels, this pro Q thing makes up for it.

            The crunch channel is ok but the clean channel is missing headroom and tightness IMO that is. This is why I hope the gt pro will fill in these area's

            If you want marshally type sound, try an ada mp1 with the three tube mod, that thing makes very very convincing old van halen and randy rhoads tones even over the computer's speakers. Now I can't say if it can do the ''breakup'' tone your after but it does have the marshall sound. I plan to get one and if it does, I'll let ya know.


            I actually have an ADA MP1 sitting right here! (un-modded of course) that belongs to my brother. It has the manuals and the MIDI footcontroller! and a STEREO ADA power amp. That thing sounds GREAT! really! very nice unit.



            Of course, I'm going to be selling it for him on Ebay since I have a thriving used gear business there.

            (sojourner-music-traders)
            and I will be offering some other tasty treats soon...

            B
            Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant!

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            • #36
              No one has mentioned the Digitech GNX4 WorkStation. It sure seems to have lots of bells and whistles and is a pricey $499.

              I love the way most of these sound thru headphones or direct recording, but have yet to find the best way to make it sound the same live. Any ideas on the best live application?

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              • #37
                hmmm...musicians friend says the GT-8 is discontinued...
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by SkyhighRocks
                  hmmm...musicians friend says the GT-8 is discontinued...


                  They probably meant to click the SOLD OUT button but hit DISCONTINUED...or they have too many GT-6's they need to unload.

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                  • #39
                    As more GT-8's become widely available, how much would you guys estimate the price drop on the GT-6??

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                    • #40
                      I was expecting a pretty big price drop on GT-6's but I just sold mine on eBay for a Buy It Now price of $300. I've seen them going cheaper, but usually the sellers have a low number of feedbacks or a negative or two.

                      I will say that 4 months ago, you saw maybe 4 or 5 GT-6s on eBay at most...now there are around 20. I think I could have gotten an easy $320 then. So like all things, the GT-6s will start a slow downward spiral in value for a year and then maybe they'll pick up again when used ones become more scarce.

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                      • #41
                        I wonder if there is a valid argument that would make me want to upgrade from my GT5 to a GT8 ...

                        The GT5 fits my daily needs to about 90%

                        and I think at one point you have to stop tweaking/learning/reading manuals and make some music for a change ...

                        That's my third GT5 btw. I've played the two others til their PCB's
                        came through the housing ...
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by guitarplayer
                          No one has mentioned the Digitech GNX4 WorkStation. It sure seems to have lots of bells and whistles and is a pricey $499.

                          I had a GNX4 for a few months and ended up returning it. It had a cool drum machine and recorder feature.

                          It wasn't a bad unit at all. It had its pros and cons. I think the GT-8 has higher quality modeling and features though (it is a next generation product).

                          Play these things at a store for yourself for a half hour or so - use your ears! You'll find what works best for your goals. Then get out there and ROCK!
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by BryanMichael
                            .

                            Now- on to some personal observations about Roland/Boss gear that I've amassed over the past 20 years...

                            1. ALL of the Presets SUCK in one way or another because they aren't accurate- What do I mean? Well ALL of the presets have the COMPRESSOR and NOISE GATES engaged and almost all of them are SOAKED in Chorus, delay, and reverb with Long decays.
                            They also all have way too much high end EQ to give them a crisp sound when demoing them in a noisy ass music store.

                            B


                            My GT-8 arrived last night and as I was playing around with it, I was reminded of your post. You are absolutely, 100% correct with the above statement. Every single preset (save for 1 which I cannot remember the name) is completely drenched in chorus + delay!! Your theory about high end eq-ing makes a TON of sense. If you played the GT-8 in a crowded music store you'd think the presets were Godlike. Once you get it home and out of the box, you start noticing how painful most of these patches become at louder volumes.

                            +1 for good observations!
                            I am a counselor for lunatics and retards. I see this stuff on a daily basis. I got attacked with a toaster on tuesday. - nasum

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by BryanMichael


                              I actually have an ADA MP1 sitting right here! (un-modded of course) that belongs to my brother. It has the manuals and the MIDI footcontroller! and a STEREO ADA power amp. That thing sounds GREAT! really! very nice unit.



                              Of course, I'm going to be selling it for him on Ebay since I have a thriving used gear business there.

                              (sojourner-music-traders)
                              and I will be offering some other tasty treats soon...

                              B


                              I'm planning on selling a few items myself as soon as I can get time to set it all up. I should be kicked for doing so but I'm probably going to be offering up my triaxis soon. It was an expensive buy and it's in like new condition, but I don't have the extra money to get the rest of the stuff that'll make it great. I've also got a pepto bismol pink charvel fusion guitar body, needs a neck and a bridge but has a set of duncan pickups and all other electronics installed. I've got a new real original floyd rose that I modded the barrel screws on to fit this guitars route cavity. I would finish the guitar but I don't really have the time.

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                              • #45
                                Does anyone have experience attaching a GT-8/6 to a midi controller board? Is it worth the effort and expense? All I really would like is another expression pedal and maybe 3 or 4 ctl pedals.

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