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  • Battery sag for any pedal, easily

    I just thought about this, and maybe I'm wrong, but I think I might be right.

    To create a dieing battery sound in a fuzz pedal, you simply wire things up as shown in this handy diagram provided to the public by Beavis Audio Research


    http://www.beavisaudio.com/techpages/Pots/index.htm

    ... and then I was thinking about something Autopilot mentioned in regards to the voltage thread elsewhere at www.deviever.com, and it occurred to me that all you'd need to do to make a little box to make any pedal have the "sag" option as shown above would be like this

    PEEP enclosure [ female DC jack -> pot wired as such above -> male DC plug ]
    (all things available at www.mouser.com)

    ... and cost all of $10 or less to make, then any pedal could be experimented with in terms of sagging. :')

    Then all you would do is plug in your power supply to the "sag box", and plug your "sag box" into whatever pedal you want to sag.

    I'm too busy to draw up the diagram, but hopefully this might inspire some of you to make it happen, so make it happen!!!!!!

  • #2
    Sagging is such a funny word.

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    • #3
      got a sag control on my Flatliner, nothing sounds good 'under powered' except maybe a fuzz face I've found
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      • #4
        That, is a very good idea.
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        • #5
          As crazy as it seems, I like to use a much higher value pot...it allows a larger range of voltage control....

          If ya want to get "fancy", its easy to hook a VU meter to lug 2 and be able to monitor the voltage visually.

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          • #6
            i agree. it's a useless feature.
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            • #7
              Mr Beadle
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              • #8
                watch out, beadle's about!
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                Originally Posted by FreekishBluesFX


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                • #9
                  i agree. it's a useless feature.


                  unless you use fuzz pedals.

                  or some time based effects, which can do some crazy cool things if starved for voltage.

                  or some boosters, especially fet based, which can take on a, for lack of a better word, syrup-y overdrive character if starved for voltage.

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                  • #10
                    I use all the above and have starved them but tbh they sound crap
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                    • #11
                      I use all the above and have starved them but tbh they sound crap



                      Often times they do...but occasionally you'll find a pedal that they'll work wonders with....

                      Plus, sometimes glitchy "crap" is what you want

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                      • #12
                        FuzzFace can get a good dying sound but I cant handle glitching sounds lol.
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                        • #13
                          the voltage control on my LowFuzz pedal goes from 9 volts down to 1 volt. there are really rad, usable fuzz sounds all the way down to 1 volt.

                          other pedals don't react so well, fuzz faces do and maybe a few distortions or overdrives.

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                          • #14
                            If I'm not mistaken, Joe Gagan had the idea years ago to create a sag control using a stereo input plug and wiring the pot between the ring and sleeve connections and then a regular input jack (stereo, too, if you want the battery-off feature preserved when nothing's plugged in). Same idea but works even for pedals without a dc jack.
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                            • #15
                              Interesting idea! Way to put your thinking cap on, son.

                              Someone ought to try it out. I'm too busy with other DIY **************** right now.
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