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  • Marshall 1960 Vintage cab better than regular 1960 ?

    I'm currently looking at buying a new Marshall JVM 410 Head with cab. The problem is the clerk is trying to sell me the 1960AV over the less expensive 1960A. He says the 1960AV(Vintage) is a much better cab than the regular 1960A cab. Better speakers etc... Is there a common feeling about this with Marshall experts ? This will be my first Marshall, and having no experience with them I wanted to ask those of you that have.

    I'm not clear on what makes it a vintage as opposed to a non-vintage cab.

    Would you spend a $100.00 more for the Vintage cab ?

    Is one generally considered to be superior to the other or not ?

    Any help would be appreciated.
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  • #2
    better speakers? That's subjective. Do you like vintage 30's or do you like g12t75's?

    I have 2 of each in one of my 1960A cabs. I like that better than 4 of either speaker.

    Tell him to shut up.
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    • #3
      I'm currently looking at buying a new Marshall JVM 410 Head with cab. The problem is the clerk is trying to sell me the 1960AV over the less expensive 1960A. He says the 1960AV(Vintage) is a much better cab than the regular 1960A cab. Better speakers etc... Is there a common feeling about this with Marshall experts ? This will be my first Marshall, and having no experience with them I wanted to ask those of you that have.

      I'm not clear on what makes it a vintage as opposed to a non-vintage cab.

      Would you spend a $100.00 more for the Vintage cab ?

      Is one generally considered to be superior to the other or not ?

      Any help would be appreciated.


      The only difference I'm aware of is the speakers. The standard 1960A has g12t75s whereas the 1960AV has Vintage 30's. Just buy whichever sounds better to you.
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      • #4
        I'm not clear on what makes it a vintage as opposed to a non-vintage cab.


        celestion VINTAGE 30 speakers in the 1960V.
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        • #5
          I found this site which compares sound clips of the A, AV & AX cabs.

          http://www.digitalplayroom.com/marshall/1960cabinet/1960av_demo.htm

          I found it helpful. I think I'm going with the AV cab.

          Thanks for the input.
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          • #6
            vintage just means it has vintage 30s. they sound much better than only g12t75s imo, but i hear mixing is the best. i wouldnt buy a marshall cab at all, and go for a lopo or avatar and pocket some cash, especially used.

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            • #7
              The BV cab also uses plywood construction over fiberboard construction of the standard B cab.
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              • #8
                I've had both. The only difference are the speakers. I'd pay the extra for the AV cab, it's a better sounding cab due to the speakers...to me at least.

                If you want the finest cab Marshall makes, look into a 1960HW. They're expensive but worth it in my book. I've got a 1960BHW and it walks circles around my 1960AV cab. Its got this nice woody warmth to it that my 1960AV lacks, even after swapping the speakers around for kicks. The HW cabs are birch throughout and the 1960 cabs have particle board backs. Makes a difference. I love the Heritage G12H30's in the HW cabs too, they're a perfect match. Of course all this is subjective. Hell, you might prefer the standard 1960A. Honestly, you gotta play through both cabs with that head and see for yourself. Good luck!

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                • #9
                  The BV cab also uses plywood construction over fiberboard construction of the standard B cab.


                  I was under the impression that just the backs are fiber/particle board....
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                  • #10
                    I was under the impression that just the backs are fiber/particle board....


                    On the AV/BV, just the back panel portion that screws on is particle board. On the A/B, the entire cabinet is.
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                    • #11
                      On the AV/BV, just the back panel portion that screws on is particle board. On the A/B, the entire cabinet is.


                      Both of my 1960a cabs are plywood with just a particle board back.

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                      • #12
                        On the AV/BV, just the back panel portion that screws on is particle board. On the A/B, the entire cabinet is.


                        You can tell definitively through the tears on mine that this is not the case perhaps this is a recent development if this is true, but I'm pretty sure this is not the case.

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                        • #13
                          wood is the same on the vintage cabs, plywood sides, speaker baffle is mdf, and so is the back board.
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                          • #14
                            On the AV/BV, just the back panel portion that screws on is particle board. On the A/B, the entire cabinet is.


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                            • #15
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