Members jackajesusfreak Posted February 3, 2010 Members Share Posted February 3, 2010 I just got an EQ pedal to run my guitar through and have absolutely no experience using one before. After some forum help I got the master EQ on my PA set to my microphone, resulting in a muddy sound from my guitar. It was suggested that I get an EQ pedal to clear up the guitar. Just plugging in the EQ with settings at 0 was a big improvement. Are there any rule of thumb settings to get a clear balanced treble and bass sound. Thanks. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slipslick Posted February 3, 2010 Members Share Posted February 3, 2010 Have you tried the Electric Guitar Forum or the Effects forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Coaster Posted February 3, 2010 Members Share Posted February 3, 2010 After some forum help I got the master EQ on my PA set to my microphone dont do that resulting in a muddy sound from my guitar that is why you dont do that It was suggested that I get an EQ pedal to clear up the guitar i dont think that happened here Just plugging in the EQ with settings at 0 was a big improvement well thats a big problem because it doesnt work that way; at all, no how. Are there any rule of thumb settings to get a clear balanced treble and bass sound turn the knobs to get the sound you want, use your thumbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted February 3, 2010 Members Share Posted February 3, 2010 I just got an EQ pedal to run my guitar through and have absolutely no experience using one before. After some forum help I got the master EQ on my PA set to my microphone, resulting in a muddy sound from my guitar. It was suggested that I get an EQ pedal to clear up the guitar. Just plugging in the EQ with settings at 0 was a big improvement. Are there any rule of thumb settings to get a clear balanced treble and bass sound. Thanks.Jack you should ask this guy. He nose EQ's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hegmatronicon Posted February 3, 2010 Members Share Posted February 3, 2010 well thats a big problem because it doesnt work that way; at all, no how. Plugging in an EQ pedal in the loop of my amp changes the sound IMMENSLEY even if all the settings are in the 0 position.It's a MASSIVE change. Not necessarily a good one....but it's a huge difference in sound without even moving a slider up or down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Coaster Posted February 3, 2010 Members Share Posted February 3, 2010 Plugging in an EQ pedal in the loop of my amp changes the sound IMMENSLEY even if all the settings are in the 0 position.It's a MASSIVE change. Not necessarily a good one....but it's a huge difference in sound without even moving a slider up or down. i dont think you are wrong, but i think SOMETHING is wrong if this happens. either its not an accurate eq, the load has changed, or something else has happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shaster Posted February 3, 2010 Members Share Posted February 3, 2010 Plugging in an EQ pedal in the loop of my amp changes the sound IMMENSLEY even if all the settings are in the 0 position.It's a MASSIVE change. Not necessarily a good one....but it's a huge difference in sound without even moving a slider up or down. What kind of EQ pedal are you guys talking about? I want to know so I can avoid it:) I'm assuming the OP is talking about an acoustic guitar but I'm not sure. How about a little more info, like make and model of: board, PA EQ, guitar, guitar EQ. speakers, power etc. There shouldn't be a big change just by plugging in an EQ pedal - sounds strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted February 3, 2010 Members Share Posted February 3, 2010 if everything is flat, it should be relatively transparent, obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hegmatronicon Posted February 3, 2010 Members Share Posted February 3, 2010 i dont think you are wrong, but i think SOMETHING is wrong if this happens. either its not an accurate eq, the load has changed, or something else has happened. Sorry - the pedal has to be ENGAGED for the change to happen. (ie step on it). I used a few diff onesBehringer (shudder) cheapo $20 oneBoss GE7 (is that the model of their pedal?)And a random other one that was VERY old and worn. Change doesnt happen when the pedal is out front of the amp - just in the loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted February 3, 2010 Members Share Posted February 3, 2010 Plugging in an EQ pedal in the loop of my amp changes the sound IMMENSLEY even if all the settings are in the 0 position.It's a MASSIVE change. Not necessarily a good one....but it's a huge difference in sound without even moving a slider up or down. You most likely have a huge impedance mismatch or level mismatch causing this. What amp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hegmatronicon Posted February 3, 2010 Members Share Posted February 3, 2010 You most likely have a huge impedance mismatch or level mismatch causing this. What amp? Mine is an Engl Fireball, my mates is an orange rockerverb (i think) and another mates is a slightly modded JCM900.Maybe i'm exaggerating the change in sound - it's not like.....turning the treble knob right around or anything like that.But it's definately a noticeable change in the sound.I think running anything in the loop of an amp changes the sound a little....maybe its just me.Anyways - this wasnt meant to start anything - i wasn't arguing with anything that was written - just sorta posting a "random observation" i guess! haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hegmatronicon Posted February 3, 2010 Members Share Posted February 3, 2010 FWIW i dont run an EQ in my loop anymore. I run a G-Major in it. So it doesn't really matter. I've just experimented at times haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted February 3, 2010 Members Share Posted February 3, 2010 Many tube effects loops are very sensitive to loading as well as have a level too high for many pedals. Also, pedals are notorious for being anything but flat when they are supposed to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hegmatronicon Posted February 3, 2010 Members Share Posted February 3, 2010 Also, pedals are notorious for being anything but flat when they are supposed to be. Most definately agree.Also think every pedal should be "true bypass" when not engaged so they dont change the sound when not turned on.Just IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted February 3, 2010 Members Share Posted February 3, 2010 Or the bypass function should not result in tone change, which is also possible even without "true bypass" in a good design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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