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  • #16






    Quote Originally Posted by tinfish
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    I've always just bought whatever mic stands and speaker stands are the cheapest.




    Right there is your problem.



    I have always been a buy once, cry once person. When you by cheap you are not saving money because you have to replace it from time to time as you have experienced which ends up costing you more money.



    BTW, K&M is your friend.
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    • #17






      Quote Originally Posted by daddymack
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      Another vote for K&M, although I do have one real 'antique' stand that I bought back in the early 70's that is still good, with a round cast iron base...[am I the only person who dislikes tripod stands because of the footprint? ]




      I have 2 old atlas chrome stands that I freaking love. The boom broke many years ago, but the straight part is still great, minus the rubber bumpers on the bottom. Any source for replacing them?



      I bought an atlas boom from sweetwater a month ago and I am happy again. I used some of those onstage crap tripod boom things and they suck and look bad. the atlas has a 2# counter weight which is is nice.



      If you have to have the boom extended with a heavy mic, I recommend using a barbell-type weight on top of the base. I just slip it over the stand and it rests on top of the cast iron base.



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      • #18
        Two years ago I bought a DR Pro tripod mic stand. Over the course of the year, I probably average 6-8 gigs per month (way more in the summer, far fewer in the winter). This thing is seriously heavy duty. It wasn't cheap, but I haven't had any problems with it. I keep it in a stand bag with my speaker stands.



        The speaker stands I have are ProLine (I think). I've been using them for gigging for four years or so. They are certainly not heavy duty, but they've held up reasonably well. The base tension knob on one wore out. I went to Ace Hardware and found a replacement eye bolt that worked very well. The little rope that holds the pins on the stand broke long ago, but it's fine.

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        • #19
          I should also add that my idea of maintainence is tossing them in the back of the car. I'm usually busy lubricating myself on gigs........
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          • #20






            Quote Originally Posted by pogo97
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            Hmm, I just came into this thread because my boom stand isn't heavy duty enough to hold a large diaphragm mic at any distance. However, it's (you guessed it) a K&M 210/9. I need something more robust than that.



            Miko, can you point us at the Live Sound thread?










            Quote Originally Posted by Bobby1Note
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            Pogo97,



            Are you referring to a boom-stand for a studio-type application? I've got one of these, and it's a great stand. Very heavy, very stable, with a good reach. It's pricey, but it really does the job.



            These guys are located in Montreal btw,



            http://www.economik.com/km/21430/










            Quote Originally Posted by pogo97
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            $380



            $380!!!!!!



            Maybe I need to build something out of 2 by 4s and big honkin' Ardox nails.










            Quote Originally Posted by Miko Man
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            Pogo97, is the issue with your K&M stand that the weight of the LDC mic pulls down the boom, or is it something else (like base stability)? I wonder if adding an additional counterweight to the boom would help. I seem to recall that a two pound/one kg counterweight is separately available from Atlas (or maybe On-Stage). You might try adding a temporary improvised counterweight to see if that fixes the problem. Mark C.




            Pogo97,



            The stand I linked you to above, is a HUGE studio stand, with a 22lb. cast-iron base that is on lockable casters. There's a large counter-weight on the boom-arm, and the clutch assembly is designed to take the weight of a heavy LDC mic, even when the boom is fully extended. The boom-arm won't "slip" down, when it's fully extended. Fully raised, you can probably get something like 8' high to the point where the boom-arm attaches, and from there, you can get a reach of something like 7 feet.



            Now, I posted that link for a reason. I'm not trying to say you should buy one. Pay attention to what Miko Man posted, because there could be a less expensive solution, to "fix" your current issue. I was going to ask the same questions as Miko Man. What EXACTLY is happening with your current stand? Is the boom-arm slipping down, because of the weight of the mic?(That's a clutch issue). Is the entire stand tipping over? (that's a lack of weight in the base issue) There are easy and inexpensive "fixes" for those problems,,,, and the visual clues can be found on that $380. stand I linked you to.



            Lemme give you an example; Let's say your current boom-arm is fully extended horizontally, and you've got a heavy mic on the end of the boom. You turn the lock-nut on the clutch to lock the boom horizontal, but the mic slips slowwwwwwwly downward. It's annoying as hell, and the reason is, you can't get enough locking-pressure at the clutch,,,,, it slips no matter how tight that lock-nut is. Simply put,,,, you have the wrong type of clutch for the application. You can CHANGE that clutch,,,, K&M sells the parts. Or, you can buy a replacement boom-arm/clutch assembly, for something like $29.



            So, what EXACTLY is the issue with your stand?
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            • #21
              I think some of you guys are going overboard a little bit. I think he said he was sick of the bushings wearing out.



              Dude $70 and a lifetime in-store replacement. It's a no-brainer.



              DR Pro Mic Stand

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              • #22






                Quote Originally Posted by Bobby1Note
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                Pogo97,

                Lemme give you an example; Let's say your current boom-arm is fully extended horizontally, and you've got a heavy mic on the end of the boom. You turn the lock-nut on the clutch to lock the boom horizontal, but the mic slips slowwwwwwwly downward. It's annoying as hell, and the reason is, you can't get enough locking-pressure at the clutch,,,,, it slips no matter how tight that lock-nut is. Simply put,,,, you have the wrong type of clutch for the application. You can CHANGE that clutch,,,, K&M sells the parts. Or, you can buy a replacement boom-arm/clutch assembly, for something like $29.



                So, what EXACTLY is the issue with your stand?




                that's the issue



                so I'll see about changing the clutch and getting a bigger counterweight or just buy a heavier-duty boom assembly since I have another mic stand sitting around with no boom



                thanks
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                • #23
                  OK, so now we know the specific problem, and the fix, might be as simple as a piece of sandpaper, inserted between the mating friction surfaces of the "clutch". It depends how yours is made.



                  Another very simple and cheap solution, might be to change the tightening nut. Does your stand have a round knurled knob,,,, or a knob with "flats",,,something like a wing-nut,,,,,, or, does it have a tightening "lever"(with two knobs)?



                  The "lever-type" allows you to exert a LOT more pressure on the clutch, than the round and "flat" knobs do.



                  Here's a pic of the lever I'm referring to; it's actually called a Tommy-bar" (part# 53-791) click on the part, to enlarge.



                  http://www.canford.co.uk/Products/53...MY-BAR-AND-NUT
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                  • #24






                    Quote Originally Posted by Potts
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                    I think some of you guys are going overboard a little bit. I think he said he was sick of the bushings wearing out.



                    Dude $70 and a lifetime in-store replacement. It's a no-brainer.



                    DR Pro Mic Stand




                    I've got one of these, too, and a tough, steady, reliable stand. I didn't know they had a replacement policy, though. What has to happen to it to get a replacement? Mine has never broken, but it has gotten banged up (scratches, etc.) over time. I'd love to have a new one. Do gouges in the fiihs count?



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                    • #25






                      Quote Originally Posted by Louis Schwartz
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                      I've got one of these, too, and a tough, steady, reliable stand. I didn't know they had a replacement policy, though. What has to happen to it to get a replacement? Mine has never broken, but it has gotten banged up (scratches, etc.) over time. I'd love to have a new one. Do gouges in the fiihs count?



                      Louis




                      I returned it when I continually over-tightened boom part. Not sure about scratches

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                      • #26
                        it may be a little off topic, maybe not... i have several "on stage" and equivalent mic stands... and i find them a pain to deal with on a regular basis...

                        when i was a bit younger and touring , i remember using a very nice K&M for about 6 years and not once did it fail to do it's job... yeah, a bit heavier, but it was a great piece of equipment... my next stand will be a K&M with a telescoping boom... this base and stand with this boom...









                        until then, i have been using an AKG c420 headset/wireless rig that i've been very happy with so far... and just one less cable and stand on stage... and i'm very tempted to try the countryman H6 D...









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                        • #27






                          Quote Originally Posted by Potts
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                          I returned it when I continually over-tightened boom part. Not sure about scratches




                          Hmmmm.... I wonder how tight I can get that boom part?



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                          • #28






                            Quote Originally Posted by Voltan
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                            it may be a little off topic, maybe not... i have several "on stage" and equivalent mic stands... and i find them a pain to deal with on a regular basis...




                            It's funny that GC or samash don't even stock atlas or hercules stands. It seems like everyone must be using the crap stands and don't realize how bad they suck since they've maybe never seen a real one.



                            I have hired a couple guys who have bought the Ultimate Support mic stand that has this squeeze clutch thing. I never really wanted to throw that kind of money at a stand that wasn't chrome.
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                            • #29






                              Quote Originally Posted by cephus
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                              It's funny that GC or samash don't even stock atlas or hercules stands. It seems like everyone must be using the crap stands and don't realize how bad they suck since they've maybe never seen a real one.



                              I have hired a couple guys who have bought the Ultimate Support mic stand that has this squeeze clutch thing. I never really wanted to throw that kind of money at a stand that wasn't chrome.




                              I think part of the problem is "where people shop". Most "music stores" aren't going to stock the same type of gear that you'll find in a dedicated "Pro-Sound & Light" store. Aside from product selection being more tailored to the working professional,,, prices are usually better too. They're used to selling PA packages, and bulk sales of cables, stands, mics, etc. Most music stores, work on single-unit pricing.
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                              • #30






                                Quote Originally Posted by tinfish
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                                I should also add that my idea of maintainence is tossing them in the back of the car. I'm usually busy lubricating myself on gigs........




                                Take care of your gear. Even quality gear will have a shortened life being tossed around. I don't handle my gear with kid gloves but I don't abuse it either. For my speakers (JBL PRX 612) I spent the extra money and bought the Studioslips clamshell covers (www.studioslips.com). After a lot of use you can't tell them apart from new ones. As far as the lubrication part, you will have to deal with that.
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