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  • #31
    I would truly love to know where I could find something that matches the 11.6" MacBook Air in size, weight, and specs for less. Hell, even the 13" MacBook Air is hard to match (find me a 13" laptop with a 1440x900 resolution screen or higher for less than $1299; oh, and it also has to weigh less than 3 lbs).
    And it has to run Logic. And although the MacBook Air can only connect to Apogee Symphony via USB, the MacBook Pro can do it properly with PCIe. Nothing touches Symphony for latency performance, not even the high-end RME stuff.

    And then there's OSX, which is light years ahead of Windows 7 in terms of user experience. But hey, if you want to run Windows 7 on a Mac as well, you can, either natively (a couple PC magazines have called the MacBook Pro the best computer to run Windows 7), or when you're not doing high-end audio, in emulation mode from within OSX.

    The only advantages I see in Windows PCs anymore are the ability to buy less expensive options and to easily mod for crazy video game frame rates.

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    • #32
      This thread has given me a new dose of Apple GAS. Think I'll better hold on to my white macbook for a while. Also installing Lion on my imac right now, can't wait to try it

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      • #33
        This thread has given me a new dose of Apple GAS. Think I'll better hold on to my white macbook for a while. Also installing Lion on my imac right now, can't wait to try it
        Lion's really slick, but it might break some of your plugins. I updated my laptop, but not my main DAW tower. Waiting a few months so all the developers can give the go ahead.

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        • #34
          although the MacBook Air can only connect to Apogee Symphony via USB, the MacBook Pro can do it properly with PCIe.

          Sounds like a good application for a thunderbolt adapter...

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          • #35
            Lion's really slick, but it might break some of your plugins. I updated my laptop, but not my main DAW tower. Waiting a few months so all the developers can give the go ahead.


            I'll likely not upgrade from Leopard. What I have works well enough and I use a number of Adobe products that I don't want to upgrade but do want to run. In our house we have Leopard on a powerPC chip (can't upgrade), leopard on a core 2 duo (don't want to upgrade) and snow leopard on a core 2 duo (came that way). That's enough complication for the moment. Plus I'm tired of spending money on computer stuff.
            All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. Arthur Schopenhauer (1788 - 1860)

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            • #36
              Find me a 13" laptop with a 1440x900 resolution screen or higher for less than $1299; oh, and it also has to weigh less than 3 lbs.


              You'll want to upgrade to this then:

              http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Ultrabook-Aspire-3951-Sohoa-MacBook-Core-i7,13199.html

              But personally, I don't know why you folks are so enamored of tiny screens, and weight differences below 10 pounds. (It's not like we're talking about a 60 lb controller).

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              • #37
                But personally, I don't know why you folks are so enamored of tiny screens, and weight differences below 10 pounds. (It's not like we're talking about a 60 lb controller).

                I travel a lot with a 6.8 lb laptop... the weight is not unnoticeable. But there is also this indefinable something that does attract me to nicely designed devices. That said, I don't have a smart phone of any type; I have very mixed feelings about my iPad and think its best for special purpose applications only (I really dislike the general interface and OS ). But an Air? Now you're talking. The last Mac laptop that I found so appealing was the 12" Powerbook G4. Some things just feel like they were completely done right. It's not a matter of a spec list or this or that design element, there's a synergy to it.

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                • #38
                  You'll want to upgrade to this then:

                  http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Ultrabook-Aspire-3951-Sohoa-MacBook-Core-i7,13199.html


                  I'm hopeful, but I'm almost convinced they're going to end up ruining it with a crappy 1366x768 panel. I can't stand that resolution on anything larger than 11". And it's downright insane that companies still put out so many 15" laptops with that resolution.

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                  • #39
                    Still have my 12" Powerbook G4, runnin Leopard. They were nice machines.
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                    • #40
                      But personally, I don't know why you folks are so enamored of tiny screens, and weight differences below 10 pounds. (It's not like we're talking about a 60 lb controller).


                      For those of us who travel on business a lot, small, lightweight laptops are gifts from heaven. Especially if they don't run Windows and are nicely designed machines.
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                      • #41
                        You'll want to upgrade to this then:

                        http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Ultrabook-Aspire-3951-Sohoa-MacBook-Core-i7,13199.html


                        I happened to see this article today...

                        http://gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/10/what-is-the-ultrabook/

                        it looks like that might be the platform for that Acer... though this article says that it will be a struggle to actually make them available under $1,000 near term. But I guess all the pricing is speculation until these things actually exist to be purchased.

                        It reminds me of the excitement when the Hammond SK1 was referenced in print as having a likely $1500 street price... by the time it actually existed, it turned out it was $2,000... not necessarily bad, but not quite as enticing either... but that is the pitfall of discussing unreleased products!

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                        • #42

                          But personally, I don't know why you folks are so enamored of tiny screens, and weight differences below 10 pounds. (It's not like we're talking about a 60 lb controller).


                          For a notebook, I agree with you that 13" is too small for me at least. My ideal screen size is about 15 inches (15.6 seems to be standard size from panel makers) and high resolution at minimum 1920x1080. My HP engineering notebook is 1920 x 1200. There are lots of engineers from our company that travel with those all over the place, and yeah they are definitely a little on the heavy side, especially if you are toting a larger-sized battery and power supply. An even larger screen would be nice, but once you get bigger than the 15.6 inch screens the things really become more like conveniently movable desktops and not true mobile computers.

                          I don't use my iPad like a notebook computer. It is just too small for my kind of computational work. Several guys with jobs similar to mine around the company actually use two screens for desktop work. We are always coding, looking at data, looking at diagrams and plots, and looking at various status windows in our development environments. You just can't fit it all in a little screen.

                          I am not going to argue about operating systems. I use what works for me and at work use that which is supported by the powers that be.
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                          G.H. Hardy in A Mathematician's Apology (London 1941).

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                          • #43
                            For a notebook, I agree with you that 13" is too small for me at least.

                            I've been using a 17", but my current plan is to use an 11" Air for maximum portability/convenience, since the stuff I do "on the road" is little more than web and email (and a macbook is still much better for that than an ipad)... my idea is to simply plug it into a large monitor at home when I'm using it for Pro Tools or web design or video editing, the only times I really crave more screen real estate... and then I'll have the benefit of something even bigger than the 17 I have now (or, as you say, use both screens at the same time). I think the combination will end up being better than what I have, both home and away, as in a sense, the 17 gives me more space then I really need while traveling, yet can still sometimes feel cramped at home.

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                            • #44
                              I've been using a 17", but my current plan is to use an 11" Air for maximum portability/convenience, since the stuff I do "on the road" is little more than web and email (and a macbook is still much better for that than an ipad)... my idea is to simply plug it into a large monitor at home when I'm using it for Pro Tools or web design or video editing, the only times I really crave more screen real estate... and then I'll have the benefit of something even bigger than the 17 I have now (or, as you say, use both screens at the same time). I think the combination will end up being better than what I have, both home and away, as in a sense, the 17 gives me more space then I really need while traveling, yet can still sometimes feel cramped at home.


                              Be aware the MAC AIR may not have the specs to handle DAW's

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                              • #45
                                Be aware the MAC AIR may not have the specs to handle DAW's


                                I don't do fancy stuff, I've been getting by on the Macbook Pro, so I think it will be fine... the new Air has a faster processor and more RAM than my 17" does, plus an SSD drive, so I figure it's going to be an improvement on what I have. Though I've been using Pro Tools and am thinking about trying Logic, so that could add another wrinkle...

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