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    Those old Yamaha synths with breath controllers were a really cool idea that has disappeared without a trace.

    Wouldn't it be great if somebody built a USB breath controller? The midi specs are already there, and software FM synths can play all those Yamaha presets that still are configured for breath control.

    I'm thinking a little plastic box with a plastic hose and fitting that you place in your mouth. A pressure transducer, USB bus powered - it would just spit out midi control data. Maybe the software driver could have a user interface for tweaking the response curve and control number and midi channel.

  • #2
    Disappeared without a trace??

    No. No.

    I play a WX-5 windsynth with a VL70-m synth box. Still made by Yamaha. Great horn and woodwind emulator.

    Still available. See www.patchmanmusic.com
    Tim O'Brien

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    • #3
      Yamaha still makes BC3 breath controllers. You just need a product to plug them into. If your keyboard doesn't have a BC input, then you can use one of these - http://www.midisolutions.com/prodbth.htm
      -Mike Martin
      Casio America, Inc.

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      • #4
        Hmmm....

        I'll send it along to get a qualified no from the GM...

        Interesting.

        R

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        • #5
          Interesting .. but they don't provide a single solution for soft synth users who don't already own some form of breath controller. And I would prefer USB over midi now.

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          • #6
            Akai is also reintroducing the EWI (Electronic Wind Instrument) with built-in analog modeling synth sound module. Model number EWI4000S, expected in stores in Dec 05.

            Sonic State EWI4000S News Item Here

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            • #7
              We are asking our engineer consultant about breath controllers and USB.

              Stay tuned.

              R

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              • #8
                Originally posted by felix
                Akai is also reintroducing the EWI (Electronic Wind Instrument) with built-in analog modeling synth sound module. Model number EWI4000S, expected in stores in Dec 05.

                Sonic State EWI4000S News Item Here


                My first question was going to be "how much?", but I got impatient and went Googling instead.

                Looks like the MSRP is going to be $995 and the least expensive price I found was right at $700, which I assume is the MAP.

                That looks VERY interesting! As a sax player in a former lifetime, I've been interested in getting a MIDI wind controller for quite a while. I knew Yamaha still made the WX-5, so I was thinking I'd just eventually get one of those... but if Akai (who is now apparently part of the Neumark / Alesis family - how'd I miss the memo on that one? ) has a new controller coming out, that gives me another option to consider.

                Either way, I'm sure it will beat the heck out of the old Casio DH-200 I used to have. But I found even that to be better for playing MIDI horn parts than using a keyboard controller.

                Thanks for the heads-up felix!
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Robman2
                  We are asking our engineer consultant about breath controllers and USB.

                  Stay tuned.

                  R


                  I can "kludge" one together for you... it should be fairly simple:

                  Get a Yamaha BC3, plug that into the MIDI Solutions BC box (linked to on this page), plug the MIDI out from that into a computer USB MIDI interface - there you go - breath controller over USB.
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                  - Sir George Martin, All You Need Is Ears

                  "The music business will be revitalized by musicians, not the labels or Live Nation. When the musicians decide to put music first, instead of money, the public will flock to the fruits and the scene will be healthy again."

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                  • #10
                    I'm on my way down to Sam Ash to (probably) buy a CME UF8 88 hammer weighted keyboard controller ($600 but they supposedly have a one day promo that'll knock 15% off) -- and it has some kind of breath controller. [CORRECTION: It has a breath controller input, to which they say you can hook a breath controller like the Yamaha BC-3. That's a wee bit different.]

                    I bought a breath controller for the little Yamaha monophonic one oscillator analog synth I used in the early 80s (one of the ones with toy keys and battery power!) but I could never really figure out how to use it. (It was only $35 or so but back then that was a lot of dough to me... or at least it should have been. )
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                    • #11
                      dear mr mike martin i would to ask u a qewstion? i have the triton classic and i well by a breath control(bc3) does it work in the triton?and does it work propebly?o i need to use a midi product? does the triton have a bc input thank u very much i wait for your answer!!!!!

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                      • #12


                        I bought a breath controller for the little Yamaha monophonic one oscillator analog synth I used in the early 80s (one of the ones with toy keys and battery power!) but I could never really figure out how to use it. (It was only $35 or so but back then that was a lot of dough to me... or at least it should have been. )


                        fyi: the uf8 is on sale (or at least was very recently) at musiciansfriend and other places for $400 new. also, supposedly, there will be a new cme line coming out soon. look into the uf80, maybe.
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                        • #13
                          A wind controller would be even more useful now, especially as your softsynth saxophone patches are infinitely more realistic-sounding now than they were in the mid-80's, when I had a BC for my YAMAHA.
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                          • #14
                            A wind controller would be even more useful now, especially as your softsynth saxophone patches are infinitely more realistic-sounding now than they were in the mid-80's, when I had a BC for my YAMAHA.


                            I've had a Yahama WX-11 for eons, and a VL70m. I never use them for sax since I have an alto and tenor. But for synths it's killer - especially as synths have gotten progressively more expressive over the years with physical and analog modeling.

                            WX-11 + OasysPCI

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                            • #15

                              I own one of these, it is exactly what you asked for. It works very well for me.

                              http://www.tecontrol.se/breathcontroller.html


                              TEControl Breath Controller

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                              • Phil O'Keefe
                                Phil O'Keefe commented
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                                minimidi2 wrote:

                                I own one of these, it is exactly what you asked for. It works very well for me.


                                http://www.tecontrol.se/breathcontroller.html



                                TEControl Breath Controller




                                 


                                From their website:


                                 


                                The result is the MIDI Breath Controller, which has the same function as a combination of the BC3A and the

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