Members The*Ataris Posted August 1, 2007 Members Share Posted August 1, 2007 I really, REALLY wish we still have a search function. I'm sorry if this has been discussed to death already.... ...but I'm looking to buy an old Juno-60 and was hoping to get some opinions that aren't totally gushing over it, you know? Yes, I'm totally into the sound, I don't need over 10 presets (I might need five, tops), and really like the simple interface. Basically, I'm looking for my first analog synth and dig what I hear. Also, a couple of questions: have these instruments held up after 25+ years? Is the $400, or so, I see them going on ebay for a realistic used market price? Finally, is there anything similar in cost and functionality that I'm going to like a lot more? Also, I really don't want to be talked into a modeler/workstation thing. I've considered looking for a Nord Lead or something, but I prefer instruments with a little more "personality/character", you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mate_stubb Posted August 1, 2007 Members Share Posted August 1, 2007 There is no such thing as an "objective opinion". Just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dereksljuka Posted August 1, 2007 Members Share Posted August 1, 2007 "Objective opinion" is an oxymoron. The Juno 60 is good for those punchy analog synth basses... I wouldn't worry about its presets because it's incredibly simple to program sounds on... maybe one of the easiest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members elsongs Posted August 1, 2007 Members Share Posted August 1, 2007 Here's an objective opinion on the Juno 60: I believe it's an analog synthesizer from the '80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MartinP268 Posted August 1, 2007 Members Share Posted August 1, 2007 I reluctantly have to agree :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Lozada Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Objective: a single digital-controlled oscillator synth, 6 voices of polyphony, on-board arpeggiator, built-in FX, NO MIDI. Subjective: I love it. Even when I use it very seldom times, I like to plug it in once in a while and play. Classic sound, not as ballsy as a minimoog -by far!- but tons of classic new wave songs were recorded using it. For "big" shows of my band, I take it with me... the "wow" factor, you know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The*Ataris Posted August 1, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 1, 2007 Ok, you guys caught me What I meant was: anyone have an opinion on a Roland Juno-60 that's not just kissing Roland's ass, like on a synth history website? Sort of, "I like it for these reasons, but these features are pretty mediocre". You know? I also didn't mean to say "presets", but the ability to store settings, which was one of the major upgrades over the Juno-6, right? Man, that's two {censored}ups in one post. I'm going to have to get on my game around here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Meatball Fulton Posted August 1, 2007 Members Share Posted August 1, 2007 "I like it for these reasons, but these features are pretty mediocre". Like: the chorus sounds really, really good...the single best feature Dislike: only one oscillator, only one EG, only one LFO really limits what you can do with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dereksljuka Posted August 1, 2007 Members Share Posted August 1, 2007 Yeah, obviously it's not going to be good for those "huge" sounds with one DCO, as opposed to two or three VCOs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Don Solaris Posted August 1, 2007 Members Share Posted August 1, 2007 Juno 60 is a great synth. You can't go wrong with it. There is MIDI/DCB converter for it with additional LFO's - bought one recently - a great tool. http://www.chd-el.cz/index.php?id=312 As of its sound, just listen to this gorgeous pad sound: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYPx7hveUIw That's Juno 60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dereksljuka Posted August 1, 2007 Members Share Posted August 1, 2007 In case you didn't know about this: The Juno-60 can have 76 patches. By pressing down nr 5 and 1 or 2, at the same time, you get access to patch 57 to 76. Submitted by "Info". To access patches 80 to 98, (dead-patch) plug a cord into the PATCH SHIFT connector. Now you can access the test-programs 80-98: Keep 5 down and press 3 for bank 8, 5 and press 4 for bank 9. Submitted by Tim Saxon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jchas Posted August 1, 2007 Members Share Posted August 1, 2007 Thick and richGets boring pretty quicklyI remember the string pads were pretty cool with that chorus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The*Ataris Posted August 1, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 1, 2007 Thick and rich Gets boring pretty quickly I remember the string pads were pretty cool with that chorus I'm pretty much a full-time guitar player; I'm not too concerned about getting "bored" with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pighood Posted August 1, 2007 Members Share Posted August 1, 2007 My very first synth was a Juno-6. Bought it for $200 back in 1988. There was a 60 for sale for $349 also. At that time, I couldn't figure out why it was worth it for a synth to have memory. The store also had a Jupiter-8 for $700 which I would up getting a month later. It stayed in my studio for 11 years. The only thing the Jupiter lacked that the Juno had was the chorus. However, the Jupiter's extra oscillator went miles beyond the Juno's single/sub combo. In retrospect, I'd view the Juno as a very beefed-up solina. Not a bad way to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OPEN OCEAN Posted August 1, 2007 Members Share Posted August 1, 2007 well...the juno is a great fun to play vintage and classic sounding instrument - does this sentence show that i REALLY like it ? - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members P321 Posted August 1, 2007 Members Share Posted August 1, 2007 Ok, some subjective opinions.. Pros: Its simplicity. If you don't wind up programming your own sounds on a Juno 60 then there's no hope for you. Chorus - Very Nice. Really enhances the sounds. Envelope's fast enough to get some punch into sounds, and the filter is quite nice at times, especially with some motion. I think it looks kinda cool too. CONS You're talking gear that's almost 30 years old. They're reliable compared to a lot of other stuff around at that time (much more reliable than the 106), but it'd be unwise to buy something that age and not expect problems at some stage. NO MIDI.. You can add it but it's pricey. Not velocity sensitive, Very basic architecture.. enough that unless you're the most basic of tweakers you'll be bored in no time. That can be a pro if you like the tone, since you know what to expect. There's also the fact that (chorus and sounds using filter motion aside) most of its sounds can be more or less nailed by more modern equipment. Some were going for $600-$700 not so long ago (about a year back). I'd still say even $400 is too much though, considering how limited they are. But might be worth it to some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The*Ataris Posted August 2, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 2, 2007 Thank you all so much. I think I'm going to do it; I mean, most of your guy's cons are actually pros because I'm such a beginner to this sort of thing. While I'm sure the Juno would be pretty "boring" compared to a Moog Voyager or something, it'll keep me plenty busy and interested It sucks that I'm moving in a couple of weeks or I think I'd just pull the trigger on something now. Next wave maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chuck sabbath Posted August 2, 2007 Members Share Posted August 2, 2007 My very first synth was a Juno-6. Bought it for $200 back in 1988. There was a 60 for sale for $349 also. At that time, I couldn't figure out why it was worth it for a synth to have memory. The store also had a Jupiter-8 for $700 which I would up getting a month later. It stayed in my studio for 11 years. The only thing the Jupiter lacked that the Juno had was the chorus. However, the Jupiter's extra oscillator went miles beyond the Juno's single/sub combo. In retrospect, I'd view the Juno as a very beefed-up solina. Not a bad way to be. who are you and what have you done to piggy:mad::mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pighood Posted August 2, 2007 Members Share Posted August 2, 2007 No, Ozzy! NOT wood! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chuck sabbath Posted August 2, 2007 Members Share Posted August 2, 2007 the universe breathes a collective sigh of relief at balance restored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pighood Posted August 2, 2007 Members Share Posted August 2, 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtLzvOsQ80k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Umbra Posted August 2, 2007 Members Share Posted August 2, 2007 What I meant was: anyone have an opinion on a Roland Juno-60 that's not just kissing Roland's ass, like on a synth history website?Sure, it's a very limited synth compared to anything remotely modern and I think the used market for them is overpriced. You can get a lot more for about the same price. BTW, if you think a modelling synth or a workstation doesn't sound good then you must not like any music made in the last 20 years. There's also the fact that (chorus and sounds using filter motion aside) most of its sounds can be more or less nailed by more modern equipment. Most if it's sounds can not only be nailed but improved upon by modern equipment. Most old synths like the 60 are really only worth anything from a nostalgic or collectors view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MuzikB Posted August 2, 2007 Members Share Posted August 2, 2007 Nice synth but overpriced IMHO. Something more modern with some quality outboard is much more useful. Grab a really good sample library if your nostalgic and ensure that this library has samples of the raw waveforms. Good quality meat to cook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gilwe Posted August 2, 2007 Members Share Posted August 2, 2007 I'm looking to buy an old Juno-60 An OLD Juno may have some issues... check it well before purchasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orangefunk Posted August 3, 2007 Members Share Posted August 3, 2007 Juno 60 was my first synth in 1985. Loved it at the time... but got bored very quickly as it seemed to have a limited range of unique sounds and variations of those sounds. I ended up selling and getting a JX8P... far better synth, though it didn't have the same Solina-like strings or the sub bass. in general I think the 60 is a nice synth for beginners as its nicely laid out and you can't go far wrong really... its one of those synths that does its thing but its never going to surprise you like a 2 osc synth with more sophisticated LFO, EGs and polymod sections might. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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