Members AnalogGuy Posted October 12, 2009 Members Share Posted October 12, 2009 I had an idea of making list of all synthesizers and keyboards which have some very specific feature that is not usually common. Of course I just can't know everything so I expect you guys to notify me of errors and synthesizers/keyboards not listed here. Previously I found some site having complete list of all synths that can generate Polypressure but can't find it again so i decided to do new list by myself. You can also point me some rare features which i should keep listed. Anyway Here it goes. I would like to keep list only for hardware. Remember: "Needs confirmation" means that I need someone who owns or knows the hardware and can confirm if the feature is really included or not. Polyphonic aftertouch (regardless of the midi capabilities): Yamaha CS-80 GS-1 DX-1 Generalmusic S2 S3 Elka MK55 MK88 Farfisa Soundmaker (Needs confirmation!) Ensoniq EPS EPS-16+ SQ-80 TS-10 VFX VFX-SD KT-76 ASR-10 Kurzweil MIDIBoard Roland A-80 A-50 Sequential Circuits Prophet T-8 New England Digital Synclavier (Needs confirmation of the model or version!) Rhodes Chroma MK 7 AM Infinite Response VAX 77 Responding to polyphonic aftertouch (PolyAt implemented in synth engine): Akai MPC series (Needs confirmation about models!) Alesis Micron Ion Fusion Ensoniq ASR-88 TS-12 Fizmo Generalmusic S2r Rhodes Chroma Polaris Dave Smith Instruments Poly Evolver Waldorf Blofeld Q MicroQ Wave Microwave I (Only "I" model?) Microwave XT Korg OASYS Kurzweil K150 K1000 K1200 HX1000 GX1000 SX1000 PX1000 PX1000+ Mark Pro One Mark Pro Two E-MU Emax Roland D-70 JV-1010 (Needs confirmation!) JV-1080 JV-2080 SoundCanvas SC-55 HPD-10 HPD-15 Juno-D / Di Yamaha EX-5® (NEEDS CONFIRMATION! I wasn't able to use polypressure with my own unit!) TG500 2 Midi busses or extra inputs/outputs for midi: Akai S5000 S6000 Generalmusic / GEM S2 S2r S3 Equinox 61 Equinox 76 Equinox 88 PRO Genesys S Genesys Pro S WK 4 WK 8 LE WK 8 SE SK 760 SK 880 Kawai Gmega (2 x IN/OUT) K11 (2 x IN/OUT) Korg Radias T1 (4 x outs) T2 (4 x outs) T3 (4 x outs) Novation X-Synth Oberheim MC3000 (2 x In, 2 x Thru and 8 x Out!) MC2000 (2 x In, 2 x Thru and 4 x Out) Peavey DPM-C8 (2 x Midi IN and 4 x Midi Out) Yamaha A5000 EX-5 PSR-9000 / PRO QY-700 Tyros 1 / 2 / 3 TX816 (independent modules) E-MU E4K (optional) Proteus 2000 (2 x IN) Technics WSA1 WSA1r Roland A-70 A-80 A-90 XV-5080 (2 x IN) Waldorf Wave (2 x Out) Release velocity: Generalmusic S2r S2 S3 Access KB KC TI/TI2 Indigo Polar Alesis A6 Andromeda QS series - all boards Ion Micron Fusion Clavia G2 Kawai K4 K5 Kurzweil PC1X PC1SE PC161 PC2 PC2x PC3 PC3X K2000 K2500 K2600 K2600X MidiBoard Novation X-board Oberheim Matrix 12 Matrix 6 Matrix 6r Roland XP-50 JV-1080 Waldorf Q Q+ Keyboards with 3 Wheels: Akai MiniAK Alesis Ion Casio VZ-1 Clavia Nord G2X Crumar Spirit Hohner HS-2 Korg Prophecy (Third wheel is a "log", combined mod-wheel and pressure-sensitive ribbon controller) Quasimidi Raven Peavey DPM-C8 Technics SX-WSA1 Yamaha EX-5 EX-7 SY-77 SY-99 VP-1 VL-1 VL-7 Waldorf Wave Glissando (Chromatic portamento): Alesis Micron Ion EMS Synthi A / AKS Formanta Polivoks Kawai / Teisco SX-210 SX-240 S-100p Korg X-911 Roland Jupiter 6 Yamaha CS-01 CS-50 CS-60 CS-80 CS-20M CS-40M CS-70M DX-7 Waldorf Q Microwave I Microwave II Blofeld Built-in Ribbon controller: Alesis A6 Andromeda Electro Harmonix Mini-Synthesizer E-mu XL-7 MP-7 Korg ElecTribe-MX (EMX-1) M3 (+ touch-screen controller) Prophecy Trinity Triton Z1 (touch controlled "XY" pad) Kurzweil K2500 (2 ribbon controllers!) K2600 (2 ribbon controllers!) Moog Liberation Multimoog Micromoog Minimoog Voyager (3-D "XYZ" Touch Surface) Oberheim OB-12 Roland AX-1 JP-8000 Siel DK 70 Yamaha AN1x CS-6x CS-60 CS-80 DJX-II DJX-IIb EX-5 EX-7 GX-1 KX-5 Motif SU-10 SU-200 SU-700 YC-30 YC-45D Can control and/or use both CV and midi (regardless of the features like being converter): Control Synthesis Deep Bass 9 MFB Schlagzwerg Krafzwerg Synth II (CV/Gate Input only) Doepfer A-100 MS-404 New England Digital Synclavier Novation BassStation rack Syntecno TeeBee Spectral Audio Neptune I / II ProTone Technosaurus Microcon II FutureRetro Revolution 777 PAiA Fatman Studio Electronics ATC-1 Buchla 700 Series Vermona Mephisto (Still on yet at prototype state) Oberheim Xpander Tom Oberheim SEM Moog Music Minimoog Voyager Little Phatty Yamaha DX-1 Waldorf Pulse plus Q Arpeggiator and/or sequencer can be used as modulation source: Access Virus TI (OS4) Alesis Andromeda A6 Fusion Ion Micron Korg Radias Roland EF-303 DSI Instruments Prophet '08 Mopho Waldorf Q Yamaha CS-30 Keyboards/Synthesizers/modules with balanced XLR output(s) (Excluding expansions and add-ons): Akai S6000 ARP Odyssey Mk III Omni Casio FZ-10M FZ-20M (Needs confirmation) VZ-10M Elektron Monomachine (Only TRS 1/4") Machinedrum (Only TRS 1/4") Octatrack (Only TRS 1/4") Fairlight CMI Series 30A (30th Anniversary) Hohner HS-2/E Kawai MP9000 Korg WaveStation A/D Moog MemoryMoog Open Labs Open Synth Neko 64 Roland GR-700 Jupiter 6 Jupiter 8 MKS-80 GT6B (Boss?) V-Synth XT (only TRS 1/4") Fantom X (only TRS 1/4") Fantom XR (only TRS 1/4") Fantom G (only TRS 1/4") Rhodes Chroma TC-Helicon VoiceTone Yamaha DX-1 DX-5 CP-70b CS-20M CS-40M CS-70M TX816 Polyphonic 2-VCO per voice synthesizers with MIDI performances (Velocity & Aftertouch): Akai VX-600 AX-80 Alesis Andromeda A6 Jomox Sunsyn Moog MemoryMoog (3-VCO per voice) Oberheim Matrix-12 Xpander Octave Plateau Voyetra 8 Rhodes Chroma Roland MKS-80 Super Jupiter Sequential Circuits Prophet T8 Studio Electronics Omega series Vermona Mephisto (Still on yet at prototype state) (3-VCO per voice???) Other features I will finish later: LFO to midi sync Midi merge (IN signal is going to OUT too) Breath controller input Pitch bend affects only to held down keys Midi with computer connection Pitch to midi Separated FM modulation for filter Please notify me about something else rare feature you think should be separately listed here too. EDIT: Sorry guy, I have been very busy... I will come back and complete the list. Meanwhile, just keep going helping me out And please confirm those couple unsure keyboards... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kpatz Posted October 12, 2009 Members Share Posted October 12, 2009 Release velocity A6 Andromeda LFO to midi sync If you mean LFOs that are syncable to MIDI tempo, most modern synths have this. Midi merge (IN signal is going to OUT too) Roland MKS-80. It caused some annoying MIDI loop issues when I had one in my setup, unless I disconnected the MIDI OUT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members evildragon Posted October 12, 2009 Members Share Posted October 12, 2009 Release velocity: Waldorf Q, Korg X5D (no {censored}ting!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mildbill Posted October 12, 2009 Members Share Posted October 12, 2009 Release velocity Access KB (61)Access KC (61)Access TI/TI2 (61)Access IndigoAccess Polar Alesis QS series - all boardsAlesis IonAlesis MicronAlesis A6Alesis Fusion Clavia G2 Kawai K5 (not the 5000 though). Kurzweil - PC1X, PC1SE, PC161, PC2, PC2x, PC3, PC3X, K2000, K2500, K2600, K2600X, MidiBoard (and others) Oberheim Matrix 6 Waldorf Q/Q+ Emu has a lot of boards that had it too, but not sure which ones except for that series that included the PK6. Some members here have said that the same sensors that measure velocity can also measure release velocity (when the key's on the way up), so it seems pretty absurd to me (and pisses me off) that it's extremely rare that a Japanese board implements it. Also, it depends a great deal on the way it's implemented in a mod matrix, whether it'll be very useful or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mildbill Posted October 12, 2009 Members Share Posted October 12, 2009 Release velocity: Waldorf Q, Korg X5D (no shitting!) You got me curious on the X5D, so I took a quick look in the manual. It says it's applicable only when transmitting. So in other words, it can send RV, but can't use it internally or receive it. Japanese boards are so weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gor Posted October 13, 2009 Members Share Posted October 13, 2009 cv to midi: oberheim xpander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members evildragon Posted October 13, 2009 Members Share Posted October 13, 2009 You got me curious on the X5D, so I took a quick look in the manual. It says it's applicable only when transmitting. So in other words, it can send RV, but can't use it internally or receive it. Japanese boards are so weird. I have X5D. My Pianoteq 3 registers release velocity and shows it appropriately. And uses it. Corpus delicti: Don't know about other Korg boards. Might be worth a shot trying reading their MIDI output with MIDIOX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mildbill Posted October 13, 2009 Members Share Posted October 13, 2009 PianoTeq is not internal to your X5D, correct? If you read my post, I said that the X5D manual states that it can send RV, but that it's not available as a mod source for the internal sounds. Nor can it receive RV. But it's pretty cool that it can send it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members evildragon Posted October 13, 2009 Members Share Posted October 13, 2009 PianoTeq is not internal to your X5D, correct? If you read my post, I said that the X5D manual states that it can send RV, but that it's not available as a mod source for the internal sounds. Nor can it receive RV. But it's pretty cool that it can send it. Oh damn, sorry for misreading your post! It's past 3 a.m. here and I should go to sleep! Good night! P.S.: oh, how I wish that it was internal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mildbill Posted October 13, 2009 Members Share Posted October 13, 2009 EX5 and Ion have 3 wheels, but that doesn't look like either of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members evildragon Posted October 13, 2009 Members Share Posted October 13, 2009 That's another Yammie, right. P.S.: VL-1 also had 2 modwheels. So did Waldorf Wave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members daddek Posted October 13, 2009 Members Share Posted October 13, 2009 OASYS receives poly-aftertouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mildbill Posted October 13, 2009 Members Share Posted October 13, 2009 My EX5R manual says that it receives polyAT, but I tried sending it some with a DAW and it didn't respond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mediterranean Posted October 13, 2009 Members Share Posted October 13, 2009 I wish I could give an extra wheel to EvilDragon, lol:cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poumtschak Posted October 13, 2009 Members Share Posted October 13, 2009 it seems pretty absurd to me (and pisses me off) that it's extremely rare that a Japanese board implements it. Release velocity : Roland XP-50, absolutely. And the rest of the XP workstations range (60/80) most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kpatz Posted October 13, 2009 Members Share Posted October 13, 2009 Release velocity is somewhat of a weird animal. It's simple enough to implement, since a keybed that senses velocity on the key-down can also sense it on the key-up. But in all my years of synthing I have never actually used it as a modulation source. It would only be useful for things that happen during the release phase of the envelope, like release time, or making funny things happen on key-up. I guess RV is a solution in search of a problem. Whereas, poly aftertouch is useful for lots of things but is expensive to implement in a keybed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Suilebhain Posted October 13, 2009 Members Share Posted October 13, 2009 Waldorf Pulse Plus has a Midi to CV Converter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Suilebhain Posted October 13, 2009 Members Share Posted October 13, 2009 Casio FZ-1 allows up to six loop points in a sample. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poumtschak Posted October 13, 2009 Members Share Posted October 13, 2009 making funny things happen on key-up. There are some presets Performances on the JV-1080 line that use the Release Velocity modulation, actually. Layered orchestral stabs or ambient stuf IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChristianRock Posted October 13, 2009 Members Share Posted October 13, 2009 My Alesis Fusion receives polyphonic aftertouch and sends/uses release velocity, as noted previously.There's a list of unique or rare things it can do and I'll try to compile it with I have some time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarcinP78 Posted October 13, 2009 Members Share Posted October 13, 2009 My DX7 is chocolate brown. Any other chocolate brown synths? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mildbill Posted October 13, 2009 Members Share Posted October 13, 2009 My Alesis Fusion receives polyphonic aftertouch and sends/uses release velocity, as noted previously.There's a list of unique or rare things it can do and I'll try to compile it with I have some time... Have you ever tried sending the Fusion polyAT with another board, or a DAW? I have a Fusion, but haven't tried that yet. I do have another piece (EX5R),that's supposed to receive it, but I never got it to respond right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Lozada Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 KAWAI's K11 had dual MIDI OUT ports.* Not independent, but it was a cool feature, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Lozada Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 BTW... may someone add a list on what synths included a BREATH CONTROLLER input? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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