Members umkcprof Posted May 1, 2006 Members Share Posted May 1, 2006 Hi all. . . I am almost breathless. . . speechless. . . I got my new H8000FW on Friday, and after a LONG struggle to get it set up and (partially) figured out, all I can say is. . . I've finally found the missing ingredient of the sound I have been so long seeking. Simply stated, this unit is UNBELIEVABLY good. . . Granted, at $5500, it isn't cheap, but it is, BY FAR, the best money I've ever spent in the studio. I really am shocked how good it sounds. I am using a preset called "Loneliness" that throws just about all the great Eventide effects into one (harmonizers, reverbs, modulators, etc.) and it is so incredibly intoxicating on a clean, mellow solo electric guitar that I feel as if I have entered another world. I hope I can sleep tonight. . . . . . 'cause I never dreamed I could sound this good! I don't know about their other units, but the H8000FW is a real knockout. Stephen "I feel like I'm in heaven" Pruitt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 That's so cool to hear Stephen. I'm glad you're digging it. I have not had the chance to check one out myself, but I have long been a fan of the "Eventide sound" and have certainly used them on a lot of albums over the years. I regret to say that I don't personally own one though. Maybe I'll bite eventually. But probably not a 8000 though. Maybe an Eclipse, or a used H3000 or 4000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members alcohol Posted May 1, 2006 Members Share Posted May 1, 2006 I bought an Eclispe a couple of weeks ago. Haven't had a chance to get under the hood, but the sound of the presets are so good. This is a professional machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stratton Posted May 3, 2006 Members Share Posted May 3, 2006 Congratulations! My Eclipse left me slack jawed and teary eyed for months after I bought it. I still love it. A pro machine. I can only imagine what the 8000 series sounds like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members umkcprof Posted May 4, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 4, 2006 I know that slack-jawed, teary eyed feeling well. These Eventide boxes are simply in another world. BUT, to be quite honest, I'm not sure what the extra $3500 for the H8000FW buys vis-a-vis the Eclipse. I have heard nothing but raves about that unit. I probably should have saved the money, but, as anyone who knows me will tell you, that isn't really my style. If I buy the "best" gear and sound terrible, then I have no one but myself to blame. If I buy something less than the "best," then I'll never know if it was just me or the gear. I can handle being terrible personally, but I can't deal with the possibility that I could have been good but just didn't have the right gear. Funny, I know. Good luck with the Eclipse. . . I'm certain that it is one killer machine! Stephen "slack-jaw, teary-eyed" Pruitt :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 Originally posted by umkcprof I probably should have saved the money, but, as anyone who knows me will tell you, that isn't really my style. I can attest to that! If I buy the "best" gear and sound terrible, then I have no one but myself to blame. If I buy something less than the "best," then I'll never know if it was just me or the gear. I can handle being terrible personally, but I can't deal with the possibility that I could have been good but just didn't have the right gear. Funny, I know. Not so funny really - I can see where you're coming from. I know that the gear does make a big difference. And not being able to blame it on the gear removes one line of excuses. But there's still plenty of other things that can throw you off. The room. The songs. The players and their instruments. How does one deal with the possibility that one could have been good but just didn't have the right combination of "all of the above"? Just playin' devil's advocate a bit here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members umkcprof Posted May 4, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 4, 2006 Well, those are all great points, Phil. . . . . . but it still pretty much boils down to me. Since I'm the only musician, I can't blame anyone else on that score. Since I am the one writing all the songs, I'm on the hook yet again. True, my non-ambient (or should I say "isolation booth") room really stinks, but I doubt highly if that's going to be the deciding factor between success and failure. I can always add some artificial ambience (which I do) from time to time. No, for some reason I can deal with failures very well so long as they are mine. If I stink, I stink. Obviously it is a control issue that I'm not really happy with. But at least I can control these things. :-) Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stratton Posted May 4, 2006 Members Share Posted May 4, 2006 Originally posted by umkcprof I know that slack-jawed, teary eyed feeling well. These Eventide boxes are simply in another world.BUT, to be quite honest, I'm not sure what the extra $3500 for the H8000FW buys vis-a-vis the Eclipse. I have heard nothing but raves about that unit. I probably should have saved the money, but, as anyone who knows me will tell you, that isn't really my style. If I buy the "best" gear and sound terrible, then I have no one but myself to blame. If I buy something less than the "best," then I'll never know if it was just me or the gear. I can handle being terrible personally, but I can't deal with the possibility that I could have been good but just didn't have the right gear. Funny, I know.Good luck with the Eclipse. . . I'm certain that it is one killer machine!Stephen "slack-jaw, teary-eyed" Pruitt:-) Stephen the 8000 is at least one, maybe two levels above the Eclipse. Perhaps not sonically, but functionally it's a monster. Just look at the back panels. Yikes. The 8000 has twice the connectivity alone. Multiprocessing. Remote control. Online patch editing. On and on. I know exactly what you mean about your purchasing philosophy. I feel the same way. Eliminate the gear as a potential obstacle. Looks like Phil does, too. Another part of that is when you get great gear, it actually becomes your partner in the endeavor of performing and capturing recorded music. It's easier to record good sounds and stay in the musical moment, rather than tweaking knobs hour after hour to make it sound good. It's inspiring. Hard to put a price tag on inspiration. Yet another is pride of ownership. It counts for something if you look at your 8000 and feel a tingle of excitement. How can we grow to love a box of silicon? When time after time, we turn to that box and it allows us to reach our musical goals, and even exceed them. I borrowed a friend's Eclipse before I bought mine. When I gave his back to him I felt physical pain! May you ALWAYS buy the best! Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members umkcprof Posted May 4, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 4, 2006 Hi there, Ken. . . thanks for your post. I'll admit it, I DO get a "wow!" when I look at that crazy 8000! As for the complexity (or would one actually call that "flexibility"?), I can only say that it will probably take me the rest of my natural life to really figure this thing out. But BOY, when I hit some of the presets, I'm really blown away. :-) And about that "pride of ownership" issue. . . well. . . I must admit that I DID put that "Eventide" sticker on my studio door. :-) Thanks again! Stephen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 Originally posted by umkcprof Well, those are all great points, Phil. . . . . . but it still pretty much boils down to me. Since I'm the only musician, I can't blame anyone else on that score. Since I am the one writing all the songs, I'm on the hook yet again. True, my non-ambient (or should I say "isolation booth") room really stinks, but I doubt highly if that's going to be the deciding factor between success and failure. I can always add some artificial ambience (which I do) from time to time. No, for some reason I can deal with failures very well so long as they are mine. If I stink, I stink. Obviously it is a control issue that I'm not really happy with. But at least I can control these things. :-) Steve Like I said - just playing devil's advocate. I'm glad you've considered all of the various different aspects. Congrats on the cool new tool. If this was available in RTAS form and not just TDM, I'd be all over it like ugly on stink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stratton Posted May 5, 2006 Members Share Posted May 5, 2006 Originally posted by umkcprof Hi there, Ken. . . thanks for your post. I'll admit it, I DO get a "wow!" when I look at that crazy 8000! As for the complexity (or would one actually call that "flexibility"?), I can only say that it will probably take me the rest of my natural life to really figure this thing out. But BOY, when I hit some of the presets, I'm really blown away. :-) And about that "pride of ownership" issue. . . well. . . I must admit that I DID put that "Eventide" sticker on my studio door. :-) Thanks again! Stephen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stratton Posted May 5, 2006 Members Share Posted May 5, 2006 Originally posted by Phil O'Keefe Like I said - just playing devil's advocate. I'm glad you've considered all of the various different aspects. Congrats on the cool new tool. If this was available in RTAS form and not just TDM, I'd be all over it like ugly on stink. Gotta wonder what kind of processing power that set of plugs requires. It would be great to have, though. I wonder if Eventide will venture into the native market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 Originally posted by stratton Gotta wonder what kind of processing power that set of plugs requires. It would be great to have, though. I've got an Athlon 64 dual core, so it should be able to keep up. I wonder if Eventide will venture into the native market. Hard to say really. Some companies seem to stick with just TDM for various reasons, but Sony went native with their plugs, which I didn't think was ever going to happen, so you really never know unless you've got some insider knowledge from the company, which I do not. But it would be cool, and I definitely would buy in if they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Filch Posted May 5, 2006 Members Share Posted May 5, 2006 Once you get into tweaking and effects creation, I'd love to hear about how workable the editing software is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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