to mirror what everyone has said: girls aren;t interested in guys doing their owns tuff unless they'#re incredibly good looking, an absolutely fantastic band or they're on their way up in the business. simple as that. there are exceptions to the rule but it boils down to that so you need to make them want you. one of the best things that ever happened to me during a small gig we done at a party was my ex girlfriends dad coming up to me and saying enjoy yourself, when i said i was he said well {censored}ing smile a little it became distrubingly noticeable that even though I'm the token one int he band that can't keep still on stage and am always selling it, I wasn't doing anything with my face at all, I wasn;t giving any impression of really enjoying myself and being into it so now I make a concentrated effort to grin, smile,s mirk etc... while still keepign the moving about, dancing etc... going. it does make a huge difference witht he crowd. again with the moving. as people have said: don't stand and look at your feet. I saw a band a couple of years ago who were decent but the main reason i can still remember them over every other small band ive seen is they had a guy singing who wasnt the greatest by a stretch and a girl singing who was amazing. thing is, the girl looked petrified onstage even when she had this cracking voice coming out of her whereas the guy who couldn't sing {censored}ign owned the stage and made it his even when he wasn;t singing. if you don't look like you belong onstage than it's going to turn people off. it's all down to confidence and it doesn't take much effort at all and even though you're conscious of thinking k time to smile, time to dance round that chick over there etc... no one else in the crowd is. {censored} if we're doign a big gig and i'm wanting to get psyched up i'll find a mirror ands start pep talking myself in it. looks absolutely ridiculous but it loosens you up so much and again, the only people who see you doign it are you and whoever else is around, everyone out the front just sees a guy whos come out ready to kick ass from go. btw i decided to start doign that after an old college lecturer told me about a gig he done with a guy in london back in the 60s who was dancing and posing and {censored} in front of a mirror. they all thought it was idiotic till they saw the guy onstage kicking ass on every level. after it said guy came up to the drummer and said hi im mick and this is my mate keith, we really liked your band.