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  1. Todd, in a cinema, the primary sound is handled by the LCR screen speakers and the surrounds handle the fx and ambience. I think the OP's question (based on the bands he mentioned) was more of moving the priimary sound around, a different application and less subtle having the surrounds suddenly handle some primary audio routed to them. I agree that (with experience and understanding) some interesting effects could be developed, I just don't think the OP's goals are practical given the cheap-cheap-cheap nature of the approach and lack of good multi-channel production experience. You and I have the advantage of years of seeing what works and what doesn't, from many different approaches. That's a big, time saving step that gives us a better chance of being successful. Just my thoughts. Doing an HBO premiere screening next week, they decided to drop the multi-channel audio in favor of an LT/RT mix because the need to focus on other more important issues with the product. AND, we have multi-channel in-house!!! They Being who? HBO? That's the difference in markets- probably wouldn't fly here in L.A. Some director's panties would be in a bunch... But I agree with what you're bring forward here, I'm just of the "Pirate" mentality of doing things for very little cash & putting huge effort into it. I've done both- and the underground type things I do for a hobby demand that low-rent approach. My experience often, as you pointed out, saves me. But if the OP gets discouraged, then he won't push the boundaries of his own creativity; and none of us should step on that too hard... My thoughts being that we (collectively, as a group) tend to put things forward inthe light of being professionals, when this person is clearly along the artist vein. T
  2. Surround sound in Live= tough. I've mixed many a soundtrack in surround in the studio, and as most of us do, mix bands live. What the op is going for here is pretty doable; a small space with just a few things in the "rears". What most peeps are thinking interms of surroudn mixing doesn't really apply- because a true surround mix ala Movie Must be realistic positioning; we rarely ever "hard" pan anything other than music. That probably isn't what the OP is shooting for (correct me if I'm wrong). To be honest, I don't see why this couldn't be done with a good 6 Aux console ala Mix Wiz... but the aesthetic would be somewhat an experiment. To address mix issues & balance issues - well who goes to a movie theater and always sits in the "Mix Position", 2/3 back, centered by THX Rules? The solution? Get your speakers up over the audience heads. Thus the people beneath are getting a wash outside the coverage pattern, and those in the pattern are getting far away. This is sort of the accepted solution (in addition to multiple surround speakers, but that probably isn't the case here.) To Automate, one could use a PTLE system, but it would have to have the Complete Produciton toolkit option. Again, quite expensive. However, with the right multiple channel interface, Nuendo could be an excellent choice... biggest issue would be latency. Bottom line is that all the issues brought forward here exist, but You could do this for less than people think... and I agree with you don't be afraid to fail approach. Just understand what your limitations might be and experiment when you're not on the clock.
  3. where are you located? I could be very interested in the tops. Todd A.
  4. If he can't even make edits w/o pops & clicks, chances are most of his other edits are lousy, too. Get the original audio project/OMF and do it right. Drawing a new fade takes 2 seconds. Trying to find a click can be a PITA. -Dan. This. In ProTools, Use the Pencil tool. Hold the Control Key and using the I Beam, scrub the audio over the click...Find it, and zoom in, Keep doing this until you can visibly see the click. Then draw it out. OP, Some of the tricks listed here are cool, but you said that the clicks are on Dialogue, so this will work. Waves De-click works well, Sonic No-Noise also very well. Todd A. Edit: Sorry, I noticed you're in Logic 8...Does not apply, but Logic must have a similar ability.
  5. That's really oversimplified, but useful for a beginner... Doesn't cover minor keys.
  6. From a strictly empirical standpoint (I dont' have Aged's EE background), I run Everything from a Pioneer CDJ-1000 to QSC amps off of a Somewhat standard 6500w Honda Genny. It's not one of the inverter types. Gear works fine. I've removed all my AVR gear from my Amp racks, and only use it work more delicate stuff. Todd A.
  7. I bought this shortly before our band broke up, so it only made it to two shows. I'd like to swap for something I can use in my project studio. I'm mainly interested in mics and preamps. I have other gear I can sweeten a deal with if you have something high-end. email: bob @ hrmusicians dot com MBox 2 Pro? Todd
  8. +1; those are just "teh suuperhitz" to "get tha money". Haha. "Summertime..." Trust me, Summertime almost didn't get released because of the amount of money Gershwin's copright holder wanted. so no BIg money there, I don't think. Badfish is my all time fav Sublime song. And to those that hate on the band... We'll lets see you live the life, selling Thousands of copies of your records out the back of your car, giving up a life of luxury to live in the Lower East side of the LBC- to pursue your dream of music. Those guys lived it. So MCA {censored}ed it up with some slick songwriters, the {censored} released on Skunk is simply great, original, and came from the heart. Todd A.
  9. If you love somebody..which means you know they need you....you don;t off yourself. ESPECIALLY as a father. You can make excuses all you want...he's a failure as a proclaimed "loving" father. Here's what you do instead...between moments of massive drug abuse...you ditch the drugs and get help. You give up the music business so you can concentrate on getting your {censored} straight. Then you live. ANd you be a father. That's what "love" is, in case you didn't know. You can't just SAY it, it's action and purpose, not just a word. Other than that, I don't have much opinion about Sublime. Fine...he was able to make music for public consumption...something I haven't really been able to do. I don't like it much, but...so....I don't waste my time about it. I never fail to become saddened at the judgement of Bradley Nowell, especially by those who didn't know him. Well, I did. In fact, some of that crappy guitar tone on Robbin the hood was my Mesa Boogie Studio Preamp. No {censored}. But FYI, he did, and was doing all those things. He loved Jacob, and was trying. He just flat {censored}ed up and fell of the wagon. And it killed him. But he provided in a way that was good for Jacob, and I can say will certainty that Jacob has lived a decent life, sans father. And his grandfather is still alive and loves him dearly. Don't be so quick to judge that which you know very little about my friend. You haven't lived your entire life yet- and you don't know if there will coem a day when you make a mistake, and will want forgiveness. I know if Brad were alive today, that he would be a different man than he was. I know it. Take care, Todd A.
  10. Anybody try these out yet? Any opinions? I own one- the FTR-37. The Best amp Purchase I ever made. Way pricey, but deliver tone in spades. If you're a metal or high Gain guy, they're not really for you. They take pedals extremely well. The click channel records brilliantly. The FTR sounds like a really nice Fender vibe- a cross between a deluxe and a Super, but with better bottom end, Really chimey Highs and lots of character- cuts extremely well, and very loud - I run mine in 1/2 power mode 18 watts, no prob. There are diferent models out there the LDW is also a great amp with a more Marshall vibe to it. Just f'n cool. Todd A.
  11. To Doug and anyone who's considering a Jenelle... Check out on DirecTV on the "101" Ben Harper has a concert running on there right now, the Guitarist has a Jenelle head...and it sound FANTASTIC!!! Great Job Doug...One of these days I will own one of those... Todd A.
  12. '89 Dodge Daytona '94 Ford ranger '96 Ford Ranger '02 Ford Explorer Sport Trac (blech!!!!) '04 BMW Z4 3.0i '07 BMW 335i '03 Ford F-150 in looooove w/ the 335..
  13. I picked up a MC Mix last week. nice layout, as I would expect from Euphonix. having used the S5MC's a ton, I am looking forward to picking up the MC Control as well. I dig the Eucon protocol... just works nicely. I largest wish would be for Digidesign and Euphonix to kiss and make up, but I realize that's probably never going to happen. I used Nuendo with the MC Pro's and I was impressed with the level of integration- It's pretty cool, and I look forward to seeing the MC mix work with Nuendo as well. I have a 6 month Trial license of NUendo, but apparently I can't register it to a level enough to get an unlock code from Steinberg/Yamaha- That's a bit of a knock on it in my book, although that's not Euphonix's issue. Here's a coupl eof tips, coming from the school of hard knocks... take this with a grain of salt, because this knowledge was earned on a System 5MC... A) Used Shielded Ethernet Cables. If you have any length on your run between controller and computer, I would highly recommend this. We were experiencing module drop off and erratic performance until we switched over to the shielded cabling. I noticed it as well when I initially hooked up the system through a Gig E router- It was struggling a bit until I made up a shielded cable. YMMV- If you have a very quiet (electromagnetic-wise)room you may be fine without. B) do not share the Eucon Enet port with Internet ot other network traffic. Get a second Ethernet card (100bT is fine) if you don't have the ports available. This will work wonders. C) Static IP= headaches D) PC support is coming. The Eucon software work fine on the MC Pro/S5MC setups using PC's, so I woudl imagine it would be fairly simple for the Euphonix fellows to get it running. I know I am going to Run Nuendo and SME on a PC.... i hope. Have fun!!!! Todd A.
  14. Well, this is all assumption until they meet (if at all). And Horry is who you are worried most about? Hehehe.. I'm very cognizant of the fact that without Robert Horry, the Sac Kings are the 2001 World Champs, so Yes. And true, assumption. However, I have to admit that I'm hoping the Suns knock the Spurs out, because I want to see a Lakers-Suns West Final. That would be just {censored}ing awesome, even you have to admit that. But I'll still send luck to the Spurs, seeing as they are also one of my favorite teams, it's hard not to like an respect a team that's won 4 Rings over the last decade. After all, I'm a hoops fan first, and a Lakers fan 2nd. :-) Todd A.
  15. Spurs won the game. They started off playing like {censored}, but once they got in the groove, they did what they had to to win. That's what championship teams do. Regular season games don't mean {censored} now. The "playoff Spurs" are a whole different team than the "regular season Spurs" and everybody knows it. true about the regular season not having too much import... But Look at it this way: The L.A Lakers have a BUNCH of Mojo against the Spurs. .4 Ring a bell??? He's back. Pau is Hungry. TD is slowing down- Gasol will battle him even. TD will be forced to play defense against either him or Odom, both of which are a difficult assignment for him (as he is to them, of course). Bowen has not been able to stop KB, only slow him in certain spurts. The Problem is that Bowen inevitably pisses KB off and thats when he plays best- example is on Sunday...Having a sub-par game, then Smith shoves him and he winds up with 32. Parker is awesome...but we got rid of Smush. TP can't be stopped, but our PG's will battle him much more even than years past. Odom will play a huge factor- His versatility will force the Surs to make a defensive adjustment- No one can really match up with him well, especially on the glass. That's his strength. The Defense will have to give something up- either KB or Gasol...then Odom steps in with a 18-10-8 game. That's tough to recover from. Vujacic will also factor in well- His length on Defense will give the Spur 2's a difficult time, and his 3 point shooting will neutralize Bowen's offensive contributions. Lastly, even though the Spurs have the greatest 6th man (Ginobli is great!), the Lakers have one of the best Benches...Deeeep. Walton, Farmar, Vujacic can all score, Pass, and defend. The other factors will be wether Ariza plays; he can stop or Slow down Ginobli; their footspeed is even, assuming that Ariza can regain game speed. Also, if Bynum returns, then that will put more pressure on Duncan an make the Lakers frontline even more formidable; even though he won't play too many minutes, it will allow the Lakers to constantly have a post presence, which will be devastating to a tired TD (Espeially after he has to go 6 or 7 against PHO & NO/DALLAS. The thing I worry most abut the Spurs is Robert Horry... I will never,never,never underestimate Big Shot Rob. Just not gonna happen. Lakers in 7, assuming they meet, which is not guaranteed considering how tough the west is. Todd A.
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