Members Woody_in_MN Posted May 20, 2009 Members Share Posted May 20, 2009 A couple weeks ago I bought a very used Gibson Faded SG. I sanded and re-stained in Sedona Red, and did a semi-gloss poly coat. Bellow are before/after pics: Before After Before After Before After What do you think? - W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mondaymonkey Posted May 20, 2009 Members Share Posted May 20, 2009 sorry I don't see much difference.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IBDBB Posted May 20, 2009 Members Share Posted May 20, 2009 definitely deeper and more pleasant red in the after pics good job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Woody_in_MN Posted May 20, 2009 Author Members Share Posted May 20, 2009 sorry I don't see much difference.... Hmmmm....well I think the reduced buckle rash is the biggest difference. Maybe not the best pics. - w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JOn` Posted May 20, 2009 Members Share Posted May 20, 2009 sorry to say, i actually preferred it before.... especially the 3-ply guard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members solly Posted May 20, 2009 Members Share Posted May 20, 2009 i like the 3-ply guard better too. I too didnt see much difference, but I also have a vision problem, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sheraton Posted May 20, 2009 Members Share Posted May 20, 2009 I can definitely see the difference in the front shots. There is a smoothness to the after pics that I'm sure is much more evident in person. That's mostly a "feel" thing. Those "Fadeds" have a rougher open grained feel. You can definitely tell that the grain is sealed in the after. That is the only difference between the SG Special and the SG Special Faded. The price difference is $500 MSRP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Woody_in_MN Posted May 20, 2009 Author Members Share Posted May 20, 2009 sorry to say, i actually preferred it before.... especially the 3-ply guard I may replace the 3 ply. That was a "casulty" of the refinishing. I re-painted the pickguard a satin black to try to salvage it, but I may well buy a new 3 ply to swap in. - w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Woody_in_MN Posted May 20, 2009 Author Members Share Posted May 20, 2009 I can definitely see the difference in the front shots. There is a smoothness to the after pics that I'm sure is much more evident in person. That's mostly a "feel" thing. Those "Fadeds" have a rougher open grained feel. You can definitely tell that the grain is sealed in the after. That is the only difference between the SG Special and the SG Special Faded. The price difference is $500 MSRP! Yes - the poly coat gives extra shine. There is a "clear" poly coat that gives a minimum of gloss. There is also a glossy grade that gives the most shine. I picked the semi-gloss. It gives gome extra shine from stock - but not as much as a factory gloss finish. - W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Burningleaves Posted May 20, 2009 Members Share Posted May 20, 2009 I like the results. Has a polished look to it now.Whats with the big ass digital clock? Does it do something more than keep time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted May 20, 2009 Members Share Posted May 20, 2009 I like it. Nicely done. EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Woody_in_MN Posted May 20, 2009 Author Members Share Posted May 20, 2009 I like the results. Has a polished look to it now. Whats with the big ass digital clock? Does it do something more than keep time? The clock. Don't ask. I think there is some weather stuff in it. I want to return it. My wife likes it. So we compromised and we are keeping it. - W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Burningleaves Posted May 20, 2009 Members Share Posted May 20, 2009 The clock. Don't ask. I think there is some weather stuff in it. I want to return it. My wife likes it. So we compromised and we are keeping it. - W Oops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cavpilot Posted May 21, 2009 Members Share Posted May 21, 2009 Ummmm...yeah..... lacquer thinner should take that paint off the pickguard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boxxy_lady Posted May 21, 2009 Members Share Posted May 21, 2009 It looks like an epi now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chqtarzan Posted May 21, 2009 Members Share Posted May 21, 2009 before PG looks betterNice finish upgrade! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aloha Posted May 21, 2009 Members Share Posted May 21, 2009 I like the faded series guitars. I like the openess that they seem to have. I don't know if it's the finish or what. At the same time, though, I can see how you invested some serious time into making very subtle improvements to an already very fine guitar. I bet that, if anything, you have bonded pretty tightly with that bad boy after working through the refinish. For that alone, I give you big ups! I'm all for people taking guitars and making them individualized. It sure beats buying and selling every two weeks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Woody_in_MN Posted May 21, 2009 Author Members Share Posted May 21, 2009 Ummmm...yeah.....lacquer thinner should take that paint off the pickguard. That was not really the problem. I was cleaning up the pickguard with paint thinner, and it made the pickguard finish cloudy. So I ended up spray painting it satin black. - w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Woody_in_MN Posted May 21, 2009 Author Members Share Posted May 21, 2009 I like the faded series guitars. I like the openess that they seem to have. I don't know if it's the finish or what. At the same time, though, I can see how you invested some serious time into making very subtle improvements to an already very fine guitar. I bet that, if anything, you have bonded pretty tightly with that bad boy after working through the refinish.For that alone, I give you big ups! I'm all for people taking guitars and making them individualized. It sure beats buying and selling every two weeks... The big reason I was posting this is because others on the forum were thinking of doing the same project. Last night I thought I was done with the project. But the poly just does not a leave a professional level finish, and I may well go back - remove the poly, and just leave it as a re-stained but un-sealed body. - w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ferdinandstrat Posted May 21, 2009 Members Share Posted May 21, 2009 The after pics definitely give a more pleasant red color than the before pics. Great work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted May 21, 2009 Members Share Posted May 21, 2009 It will need some kind of protective finish, otherwise the wood will soak up every liquid and stain that comes along. Either leave it or go back and use an oil finish. Tung oil or the like. I like it the way it is, though. Looks good, just replace the pickguard. EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cavpilot Posted May 22, 2009 Members Share Posted May 22, 2009 tung oil over poly over nitro?...what a nightmare. DON'T do it. tip: http://reranch.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Burgess Posted May 22, 2009 Members Share Posted May 22, 2009 Sorry, the before is better. That pickguard is awful and the finish really doesn't look better, just slightly different.A lot of effort. Not much results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Woody_in_MN Posted May 22, 2009 Author Members Share Posted May 22, 2009 UPDATE: The kid that sold me the faded SG wants to buy it back, and I did not plan on buying a Les Paul Studio - which I did. So I plan on selling it back to the kid when he has the money in a week or two. He prefers the dull worn in look. I did remove the poly last night, and re-stained. I'll let the kid do what he wants with it after that. I guess the lesson I learned is that brushed on poly coat does not give a factory/professional finish. If I do this kind of thing again, I would be tempted to use Min Wax poly wipe ons, or Tru Oil, or Lind Seed oil. There is also Min Wax poly in a spray that I would consider. - w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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