Members Woody_in_MN Posted August 11, 2009 Members Share Posted August 11, 2009 I think I am having some problems with my 2nd Garagemaster keeping it in tune. How can I tell if my problem is the nut or tuner? Thanks in advance, - W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrbrown49 Posted August 11, 2009 Members Share Posted August 11, 2009 It's either the nut, or how you are wrapping the strings on the post. Could also be the saddles or string trees. Really any contact point can be an issue if the string binds. It's definitely the nut if you hear a pinging noise while tuning or bending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mikey4402 Posted August 11, 2009 Members Share Posted August 11, 2009 Well it could be alot of thing the above included. But it not likey that the actual tuner is causing the problems. So the nut wins this battle...or i guess losses... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Woody_in_MN Posted August 11, 2009 Author Members Share Posted August 11, 2009 One symptom I've noticed is that on one string I turn the tuner quite a ways with no change in pitch - then all of a sudden the pitch will shift big time. I have never changed a nut, but these seem to be pretty cheap. ($5 - $6?) I guess I will start there. - w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrbrown49 Posted August 11, 2009 Members Share Posted August 11, 2009 One symptom I've noticed is that on one string I turn the tuner quite a ways with no change in pitch - then all of a sudden the pitch will shift big time.I have never changed a nut, but these seem to be pretty cheap. ($5 - $6?) I guess I will start there. - w That's a sure sign that it's binding in the nut. It's tightening the string only between the tuner and the nut. Then the pressure gets to be too much and the string slips through the nut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members reverberlayed Posted August 11, 2009 Members Share Posted August 11, 2009 Try and file down the slots in the nut a little bit..that happened to me on my Tele and I filed ever-so-slightly and now it stays perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Woody_in_MN Posted August 11, 2009 Author Members Share Posted August 11, 2009 Thanks Guys. Yes. It may be worth trying to file the bad slots. I also read an article on string winding. It seems the right way to do it is to kind of knot the string on to itself. I did not use this technique. It might be worth re-winding my stings too. Both cheap fixes - W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cBc Posted August 11, 2009 Members Share Posted August 11, 2009 Thanks Guys. Yes. It may be worth trying to file the bad slots. I also read an article on string winding. It seems the right way to do it is to kind of knot the string on to itself. I did not use this technique. It might be worth re-winding my stings too. Both cheap fixes - W "re-winding strings"? I'd splurge on a new un kinked up set. Definitely sounds like the nut needs some careful filing to open up the slot slightly. Installing the new set correctly should fix you right up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Woody_in_MN Posted August 11, 2009 Author Members Share Posted August 11, 2009 "re-winding strings"? I'd splurge on a new un kinked up set. Definitely sounds like the nut needs some careful filing to open up the slot slightly. Installing the new set correctly should fix you right up. What do you mean "un kinked"? - W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cBc Posted August 11, 2009 Members Share Posted August 11, 2009 When you put on a set of strings , wind them up , tune them, you have kinked /bent the ends of the strings around the tuners, and probably cut the ends off. If you want to install strings correctly by wrapping them around themselves, it will go lots better using a new set versus trying to reuse the existing one. I've learned this by experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ST-III Posted August 11, 2009 Members Share Posted August 11, 2009 Sometimes you can unwind the string and rewind it and that will fix the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members magnido45 Posted August 11, 2009 Members Share Posted August 11, 2009 After you widen the nut slot...don't forget a little pencil graphite or Big Bend's Nut Sauce... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cBc Posted August 11, 2009 Members Share Posted August 11, 2009 Sometimes you can unwind the string and rewind it and that will fix the problem. not if he wants to do it the right way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ermghoti II Posted August 11, 2009 Members Share Posted August 11, 2009 The easiest way to tell, is that it's never the tuners' fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sheraton Posted August 11, 2009 Members Share Posted August 11, 2009 After you widen the nut slot...don't forget a little pencil graphite or Big Bend's Nut Sauce... +1 It always helps to lube your nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cBc Posted August 11, 2009 Members Share Posted August 11, 2009 The easiest way to tell, is that it's never the tuners' fault. ..which in my experience, isn't a true statement. It drives me nuts sometimes to see all the cheap ass tuners put on "starter guitars". supposedly aimed at "budding guitarists" who want to learn how to play. Best way they can think of to encourage this skill is to sell them a guitar that can't even be made to stay in tune? I mean you remove them & they just fall part in your hands. wtf? Brilliant marketing plan!! oh & I want some of those bacon cookies dammit!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cBc Posted August 11, 2009 Members Share Posted August 11, 2009 +1 It always helps to lube your nuts. or have someone very attractive around to do it for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Woody_in_MN Posted August 11, 2009 Author Members Share Posted August 11, 2009 When you put on a set of strings , wind them up , tune them, you have kinked /bent the ends of the strings around the tuners, and probably cut the ends off. If you want to install strings correctly by wrapping them around themselves, it will go lots better using a new set versus trying to reuse the existing one. I've learned this by experience. Oh I see. Thanks, - w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Woody_in_MN Posted August 11, 2009 Author Members Share Posted August 11, 2009 After you widen the nut slot...don't forget a little pencil graphite or Big Bend's Nut Sauce... I have been trying to do the pencil trick when I re-string. Thanks, - w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members redundantshrimp Posted August 11, 2009 Members Share Posted August 11, 2009 +1 It always helps to lube your nuts. :lol: I'm so mature... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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