Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted June 11, 2010 Moderators Share Posted June 11, 2010 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment_and_arts/10287558.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JoeFender Posted June 11, 2010 Members Share Posted June 11, 2010 Page is a dude that played the guitar. Some of it marginally good. Most of it not. He's no God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members al.cxam Posted June 11, 2010 Members Share Posted June 11, 2010 ooopsie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members al.cxam Posted June 11, 2010 Members Share Posted June 11, 2010 Page is a dude that played the guitar. Some of it marginally good. Most of it not. He's no God. Yup - you're sooo right! I could play Stairway when I was 13.... Jimmy didn't write it until he was 23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Doctor49 Posted June 11, 2010 Members Share Posted June 11, 2010 I have two things to say 1) the 80s are certainly not the new 60s 2) The best of Page's work is reserved for his impeccable performances as a session player before, during and after Zeppelin. It is not the stuff he did with Zep in studio or live. He is therefore invisible to most people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted June 11, 2010 Author Moderators Share Posted June 11, 2010 I have two things to say1) the 80s are certainly not the new 60s2) The best of Page's work is reserved for his impeccable performances as a session player before, during and after Zeppelin. It is not the stuff he did with Zep in studio or live. He is therefore invisible to most people. Hmmm, the Zep studio stuff isn't shabby, and he blew my head at Knebworth despite some of the press for those gigs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scuzzo Posted June 11, 2010 Members Share Posted June 11, 2010 this kinda bugs me when some one discounts page as a guitarist..any one who has really heard led zep 3. will know what a talent he really is.and an amazing composer.. now if you want to say that all pages playing is slopy rehash of some blues pent stuff.. then take a listen to physical graf or presence or.. hell its not just about stairway or black dog or... better yet name me one debut lp that is as solid as led zep 1.. not a guitar god.. but seems to be a whipping boy for some folks now and days.. not saying his playing is not sloppy on bits and live some of it is a bit lack luster... but his catalog is way more then the radio stuff.. way more.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members john_p_t Posted June 11, 2010 Members Share Posted June 11, 2010 now if you want to say that all pages playing is slopy rehash of some blues pent stuff.. then take a listen to physical graf or presence "Presence" has astoundingly precise playing on it. In many ways, it's my least favourite of their LPs, but it certainly proves that that falling-down-the-stairs swagger of his other stuff was a choice, not a limitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted June 11, 2010 Author Moderators Share Posted June 11, 2010 this kinda bugs me when some one discounts page as a guitarist..any one who has really heard led zep 3. will know what a talent he really is.and an amazing composer.. Reckon anybody who knows his full catalogue simply cannot deny his phenomenal skill, creativity and technical ability, Clapton himself I think would acknowldge that JP is in a higher league than he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EADGBE Posted June 11, 2010 Members Share Posted June 11, 2010 First of all there's no such thing as mojo. Second, Page is one of the best guitarists of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted June 11, 2010 Author Moderators Share Posted June 11, 2010 First of all there's no such thing as mojo. Second, Page is one of the best guitarists of all time.Read the article....you might get it then....or maybe still not:facepalm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AshboneWish Posted June 11, 2010 Members Share Posted June 11, 2010 Yup - you're sooo right! I could play Stairway when I was 13.... Jimmy didn't write it until he was 23. Hahahaha..I would think playing it and writing it would be two different things. Your worldwide recognised work is......??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted June 11, 2010 Members Share Posted June 11, 2010 Your worldwide recognised work is......??? I think he wrote "Sarcasm In D Minor." It's quite well known though not everyone gets it. EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JoeFender Posted June 11, 2010 Members Share Posted June 11, 2010 It's funny how children never tire of this game: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaveAronow Posted June 11, 2010 Members Share Posted June 11, 2010 Page is a dude that played the guitar. Some of it marginally good. Most of it not. He's no God. Awesome Quote!! Whoever wrote that must be a GENIUS!!! Now I see why you diss Page, and Love Clapton so much. You measure greatness by the degree of plaigerism involved. Yes, Page might have "lifted" a few things here and there but he had oil tankers full of original ideas. Clapton, on the other hand....... Zero. Nothing. Nada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaveAronow Posted June 11, 2010 Members Share Posted June 11, 2010 I think he wrote "Sarcasm In D Minor." It's quite well known though not everyone gets it. EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted June 11, 2010 Members Share Posted June 11, 2010 First of all there's no such thing as mojo. Second, Page is one of the best guitarists of all time. Actually, I read one story that holds Jimmy invented mojo. Well, not so much invented it as conjured it up with a newt and some stumpwater, but still... EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JoeFender Posted June 11, 2010 Members Share Posted June 11, 2010 Awesome Quote!! Whoever wrote that must be a GENIUS!!! Now I see why you diss Page, and Love Clapton so much. You measure greatness by the degree of plaigerism involved. Yes, Page might have "lifted" a few things here and there but he had oil tankers full of original ideas. Clapton, on the other hand....... Zero. Nothing. Nada. Agreed with the genius part, I should have credited you. I figure the OP was smart enough to figure it out.And for the record, I like both Clapton and Page equally. My real problem is those that feel they need to tear down someone to build up their own cred. And plaigerism has always been part of the game, from the first time a caveman picked up a Strat... :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaveAronow Posted June 11, 2010 Members Share Posted June 11, 2010 Agreed with the genius part, I should have credited you. I figure the OP was smart enough to figure it out. And for the record, I like both Clapton and Page equally. My real problem is those that feel they need to tear down someone to build up their own cred. And plaigerism has always been part of the game, from the first time a caveman picked up a Strat... :poke: I was pretty much just kidding. Busting your balls, y'know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JoeFender Posted June 11, 2010 Members Share Posted June 11, 2010 I was pretty much just kidding. Busting your balls, y'know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Special J Posted June 11, 2010 Members Share Posted June 11, 2010 this kinda bugs me when some one discounts page as a guitarist..any one who has really heard led zep 3. will know what a talent he really is.and an amazing composer.. now if you want to say that all pages playing is slopy rehash of some blues pent stuff.. then take a listen to physical graf or presence or.. hell its not just about stairway or black dog or... better yet name me one debut lp that is as solid as led zep 1.. not a guitar god.. but seems to be a whipping boy for some folks now and days.. not saying his playing is not sloppy on bits and live some of it is a bit lack luster... but his catalog is way more then the radio stuff..way more.. Great post. You definitely have to look at his career as a whole if you're going to judge him. After doing so, anybody who denies his talent is deluding themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bro Blue Posted June 11, 2010 Members Share Posted June 11, 2010 So much fail here. Oh so much fail. No wonder this world is going to hell. The man has,at the very least, more talent in one of his pubic hairs than most people here will have in a lifetime. You wish you could squeeze a drop of his awesome essence from just one pube and spread it on your fingertips to gain but a modicum of what he has. Pube freaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nuke_diver Posted June 11, 2010 Members Share Posted June 11, 2010 not saying his playing is not sloppy on bits Maybe he's just pushing himself to the absolute limit every time Pagey is the riff master and an amazing producer. I think he is incredible talented and I would kill to have just a drop of that talent. But since guitar playing for many is a competition you have to talk trash I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Preacher Posted June 11, 2010 Members Share Posted June 11, 2010 Everybody has different musical tastes, but to deny Jimmy Page's talent and influence regardless of his shortcomings is to deprive yourself of some great guitar playing. Was his playing ever *perfect*? No. Did he inspire me to play the guitar and increase my oh-so-visceral appreciation of rock? Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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