Members notjonahbutnoah Posted February 28, 2011 Members Share Posted February 28, 2011 For an LP, I would like to have 1 knob be master volume, keep the two tone knobs, and then the 4th knob would be a pan for when the switch is in the middle. (preferably with a pot that "clicked" into the exact middle) That way, you could still do the stutter thing if you wanted, and I that it would be easier to dial in more interesting tones. Could this be done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted February 28, 2011 Members Share Posted February 28, 2011 It can be done. The big problem with that is that every pot you run through, things get muddier. With that scheme, you run through three pots insted of two, so the resistance gets pretty high. You can overcome that some by using a 1 meg volume pot or using a treble bleed on the volume. Gretsch gets away with similar wiring, especially on Dynasonics...but those are super bright pickups to begin with. It's tougher to do on buckers. My Alleykat uses a master/volume/volume/tone setup and I go back and forth on whether I like it or hate it. EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members notjonahbutnoah Posted February 28, 2011 Author Members Share Posted February 28, 2011 Interesting. Well let's say I want a master volume. What's a fun thing to do with that last pot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members photon9 Posted February 28, 2011 Members Share Posted February 28, 2011 Interesting. Well let's say I want a master volume. What's a fun thing to do with that last pot? Replace it with a switch. You could do any number of interesting configurations that way such as have options for series/parallel, and out-of-phase. This site is a great resource: guitarnuts.com Good luck. Once you get the wiring bug it's hard to shake it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted February 28, 2011 Members Share Posted February 28, 2011 Some people just put a dummy in there. Or a varitone. Gretsch often used those two or three way switches for tone to overcome some of that, so that's a possibility, too. Maybe get a Tonestyler. :poke: My brother has an old Gibson Marauder that uses a pickup pan knob. I think it works very well, but it has super bright blade style picups in it that compensate for some of the extra drag. Higher value pots offset that a lot, though. Not like it couldn't be undone if you hated it. EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members notjonahbutnoah Posted February 28, 2011 Author Members Share Posted February 28, 2011 Replace it with a switch. You could do any number of interesting configurations that way such as have options for series/parallel, and out-of-phase. This site is a great resource: guitarnuts.com Good luck. Once you get the wiring bug it's hard to shake it. Heh, thanks man. I actually did that to an LP once. I had a P Rails in the neck and replaced a pot with a switch that got me the P90, the rail, and the full humbucker modes on the rails. There were some interesting tones to be had, but something about having a swtich there bugged me. I dunno. I may just go the old school bumble bee route. Either way, my LP needs some tlc in the control cavity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members notjonahbutnoah Posted February 28, 2011 Author Members Share Posted February 28, 2011 Some people just put a dummy in there. Or a varitone. Gretsch often used those two or three way switches for tone to overcome some of that, so that's a possibility, too. Maybe get a Tonestyler. :poke: My brother has an old Gibson Marauder that uses a pickup pan knob. I think it works very well, but it has super bright blade style picups in it that compensate for some of the extra drag. Higher value pots offset that a lot, though. Not like it couldn't be undone if you hated it. EG Word, I think your first post kinda killed it for me. I don't really want anything nutty, and don't want weird mods or pickups that I purchased based on wiring, ya know? Heh, I could do a GFS modboard. On-board flanger baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted February 28, 2011 Members Share Posted February 28, 2011 I actually bought one of their overdrive modboards. Never got around to using it, though. EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members notjonahbutnoah Posted February 28, 2011 Author Members Share Posted February 28, 2011 I actually bought one of their overdrive modboards. Never got around to using it, though. EG Heh, you could probably just solder some jacks to it and use it like a pedal. Put it inside a funny enclosure like a dried gourd or folded piece of paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted February 28, 2011 Members Share Posted February 28, 2011 You could do that and the thought crossed my mind. I think I gave it away though. It's nothing but a tiny little OD pedal with a box. EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members notjonahbutnoah Posted February 28, 2011 Author Members Share Posted February 28, 2011 Yeah, reminds me of those Dano strat lookin things that had onboard effects. Revolutionary. Well since this is pretty much just you and me talking at this point, and I know you change out wiring bits sometimes, have you ever heard the same guitar with and without those big bumble-bee tone caps? Do they actually sound nicer? Snake oil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members d_dave_c Posted February 28, 2011 Members Share Posted February 28, 2011 That's what the 5th knob on a Rickenbacker is - a blend knob. I don't think it muddies up the signal any on those. There isn't a middle detente on my 620, but it's pretty easy to find the sweet spot between neck and bridge (OK, I usually just leave it all the way to the bridge). This is what you would use:http://www.guitarelectronics.com/product/CPB500/Alps-500K-Guitar-and-Bass-Pickup-Balance-Blend-Pot.html EDIT - here's one w/ middle detente - http://www.grguitars.com/parts_5electronics.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cratz2 Posted February 28, 2011 Members Share Posted February 28, 2011 You could always go for a temporary push button kill switch. That's would be very 80s of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Belva Posted February 28, 2011 Members Share Posted February 28, 2011 If you go mod board do you have room for a battery? You could make room by putting in mini pots, but that seems crazy if the pots you have work as they should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members everlight44 Posted March 1, 2011 Members Share Posted March 1, 2011 Killswitches are pretty fun and very easy to install. Radio shack sells momentary on/off mini switches for about $2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted March 1, 2011 Members Share Posted March 1, 2011 http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Support/TechSupport/Wiring%20Diagrams/ Check out the Kat series diagrams. First time I've found em. Odd, the signal goes vol/tone/master. For some reason, I assumed it went to the master first. EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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