Members Paul McCartney Posted August 1, 2011 Members Share Posted August 1, 2011 I WIN : I get a great part for a fair priceI LOSE : I didn't learn anything. I didn't have the opportunity to learn about his signal What do you wanna learn from having the guitarist in your own studio? Why should I pay a background choir the travel to Italy when someone in Taipei can record it for me and transfer the tracks. Why should there be any disadvantage when a producer uses latest technology? In my opinion it has only advantages when I can be more time at home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lee Flier Posted August 1, 2011 Members Share Posted August 1, 2011 Good feedback so far.....An example of the paradigm that concerns me : I hire a pedal steel player through the internet to play a part on a song I'm pitching to our plugger (he only lives 15 miles from me). He is a live guy and studio guy.I Paypal him, send him an mp3, he lays the track, sends it back and it's done.I WIN : I get a great part for a fair priceI LOSE : I didn't learn anything. I didn't have the opportunity to learn about his signal chain, gear, method, how he sets his protool session up,....I didn't even get to go to another part of town to see or learn about another neighborhood.I only got a steel guitar part in a WAV fileHE WINS : He gets to lay the part at his leisure, at his home (or hotel room), with his gear of choice.HE LOSES : When the singer I play guitar for wants to hire a steel player for the fall tour I won't refer him to audition (or refer him to any other road gig). I have NO idea if his personality will mesh with our crew. Instead, I'll refer a guy I saw on 2nd and Broadway, had a beer with, and got to hang with.There wasn't any room for anything more to germinate Good post. Yeah, I would say that describes the advantages and disadvantages of both methods very well. I will say that for overdubs like this, the way you did it isn't likely to result in a "worse" end result from having him come to the studio. But if the whole record is done that way - that is, if nobody on the project has ever met or ever records in the same room together - then I do think the end result suffers. So it's largely a matter of degree, like a lot of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members J.Paul Posted August 1, 2011 Author Members Share Posted August 1, 2011 Why should I pay a background choir the travel to Italy when someone in Taipei can record it for me and transfer the tracks. That's exactly right. That's where technology and the internet are at it's strongest and are serving us......but in my Lap Steel guitar session example above the guy only lives 15 miles from me. He got his Paypal transfer but didn't get the full human experience.I got my WAV file but didn't get the full human experience. granted "the full human experience" sometimes mean the guy's an asshole, got bad breath, dog is gonna give you fleas, lives in a bad neighborhood, times 1000 other things; but that's for another thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WRGKMC Posted August 1, 2011 Members Share Posted August 1, 2011 You cant live your life through a computer. Many try and fail. Its a good tool to help support a business or hobby. When it comes to good music it, will always require people to read each others body language emotions. The human element cannot be transmitted over the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Paul McCartney Posted August 1, 2011 Members Share Posted August 1, 2011 granted "the full human experience" sometimes mean the guy's an asshole, got bad breath, dog is gonna give you fleas, lives in a bad neighborhood, times 1000 other things; but that's for another thread. You and me, we live in different world, at least professionally spoken. I understand what yo are saying, but most of it has nothing in common how I or most other producer/composer make a product. And about the assholenees of people working with me, when I would care about each one to find out if he is an asshole or not, then that would be already a profession of its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted August 2, 2011 Moderators Share Posted August 2, 2011 Anything. Great answer. I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lee Flier Posted August 2, 2011 Members Share Posted August 2, 2011 Great answer. I love it. Yeah. I'm really digging your perspectives here J. Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members J.Paul Posted August 18, 2011 Author Members Share Posted August 18, 2011 ....it's interesting that our local ABC new affiliate just did a human interest segment on people acting like they're using their cell phones to avoid talking to a person in real life just another example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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