Members BlueStrat Posted May 26, 2006 Members Share Posted May 26, 2006 Originally posted by fuzzy4dice There is a way to search locally, but it's a PITA! Further, the sub-catergories are like so idiosyncratic that's it's useless. "GRINDCORE" Or "Happy Jungle Hardcore". How about: Rock, Folk, Metal, Dance, Rap, Jazz, Classical? Yeah, there was a band in my local paper advertising itself as "prog mathcore." WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fuzzy4dice Posted May 26, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 26, 2006 Hey BlueStrat! Could you give us a little more insight on the TOS agreement on MySpace that I posted above. I am told it is pretty heavy for a site that caters to unsigned bands. What's your take? PS - You mean to say, you don't like MathCore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NecroSocial Posted May 26, 2006 Members Share Posted May 26, 2006 I dunno... I like the site. Met a lot of interesting people through it. Also got laid a few times because of that site. Gotta like that. Also, if you guys don't dig the crazy browser killing pages just disable javascript and plug-in support on your browser when using the site. If you find a page who's javascipt and plug-ins you want to see then re-enable them. I use Opera as my browser so this is a one click process for me (I could bind it to a keyboard key for more convenience but I'm not that lazy ...yet). -Necro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Blackwatch Posted May 27, 2006 Members Share Posted May 27, 2006 Yeah, there was a band in my local paper advertising itself as "prog mathcore." I guess that makes me...Bluerockjazzgrasscore..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Poker Posted May 28, 2006 Members Share Posted May 28, 2006 Originally posted by fuzzy4dice Hey BlueStrat! Could you give us a little more insight on the TOS agreement on MySpace that I posted above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kingnome Posted May 28, 2006 Members Share Posted May 28, 2006 Originally posted by NecroSocial I dunno... got laid a few times because of that site. Gotta like that. I'd like to think that you use another name there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BlueStrat Posted May 28, 2006 Members Share Posted May 28, 2006 Originally posted by fuzzy4dice Hey BlueStrat! Could you give us a little more insight on the TOS agreement on MySpace that I posted above. I am told it is pretty heavy for a site that caters to unsigned bands. What's your take? PS - You mean to say, you don't like MathCore? "Here: By displaying or publishing ("posting") any Content, messages, text, files, images, photos, video, sounds, profiles, works of authorship, or any other materials (collectively, "Content") on or through the Services, you hereby grant to MySpace.com, a non-exclusive, fully-paid and royalty-free, worldwide license (with the right to sublicense through unlimited levels of sublicensees) to use, copy, modify, adapt, translate, publicly perform, publicly display, store, reproduce, transmit, and distribute such Content on and through the Services." Basically, it means once you put your stuff up online for free, you are allowing them to do anything they want with your stuff-use it on other websites, make it available worldwide, hack it up and use bits and pieces, and really do whatever they want with it. I'm not sure what the implicationms are; I am on download.com and don't see any kind of agreement like that there. But Garageband.com has a similar statement: 6. Grant of Content Rights to GB 6.1. License. By uploading Content to the Service (including, but not limited to, sound recordings, musical and/or vocal works, pictures, videos, song lyrics, written materials and/or other materials), you hereby grant, and you represent and warrant that you have the right to grant, to GB a worldwide, non-exclusive, fully-paid-up, worldwide license to use, copy, modify, adapt, translate, publicly perform, digitally perform, publicly display and distribute such information and Content in whole and in part, and to prepare derivative works of, or incorporate into other works, such information and Content, in any format or medium now known or later developed. The foregoing license shall be sublicensable by GB to permit GB users to view, hear, read, stream, download and link to your Content. GB users may not transfer the forgoing rights and, except as otherwise provided herein, GB may not transfer or sell its Content license to others. At all times you shall retain full ownership of your Content subject to the non-exclusive rights granted to GB hereunder. 6.2. Promotional Use. You also grant GB the right to use the Content, such as songs, Gig Listings and Band Information (including, but not limited to, names, likenesses biographical material, logos, marks or trade names of you or any individuals performing or otherwise represented in the Content or the artist or band included or referred to in the Content) for the purposes of syndication and the promotion of GB products and services without any payment to you or any other persons or companies. GB may sublicense its right to display your Band Information and Gig Listings to anyone. 6.3. Waiver of Performance Royalties. You grant GB the right to waive, on your behalf, any performance royalties on the Content when performed in a broadcast format such as internet radio, satellite radio, or terrestrial radio. You represent that you have sufficient ownership of rights in the Content to grant GB such waiver. It appaers that while you retain full ownership of the material, in exchange for their allowing you space on their site to promote yourself, they reserve the right to use whatever you put up in any way they want to promote themselves as well. I have used garageband, and I use download.com and CDBaby, and I haven't had any issues or problems. When I was on Garageband, one of my songs eneded up being used in a Macworld Magazine promotional CD insert, as well as in a magazine in Japan. I didn't get paid for it, but I did get a lot of exposure and I sold more CDs through my hardcopy distributor. This is what they mean by using it as they see fit to any sublicensees. It sure is a lot of legalese gobbledygook to wade through, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NecroSocial Posted May 28, 2006 Members Share Posted May 28, 2006 Originally posted by Kingnome I'd like to think that you use another name there... lol yeah but neither is "normal" ('Priest' on my band profile and 'DieMortem' on my personal/joke profile -Necro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fuzzy4dice Posted May 28, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 28, 2006 Thanks BlueStrat! If you remove the song from MySpace, then they can no longer use it, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BlueStrat Posted May 28, 2006 Members Share Posted May 28, 2006 Originally posted by fuzzy4dice Thanks BlueStrat! If you remove the song from MySpace, then they can no longer use it, right? As far as I know, that's correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BATCAT Posted June 1, 2006 Moderators Share Posted June 1, 2006 The last role I want to play here is that of myspace apologist, but... My band gets about a third of our booking offers through myspace, and we can credit a significant portion of our draw at shows to posting bulletins about our shows. We've also used it extensively to network with other bands to set up out-of-town shows. It's annoying, it's buggy... it's EXTREMELY useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fuzzy4dice Posted June 2, 2006 Author Members Share Posted June 2, 2006 Originally posted by Actionsquid The last role I want to play here is that of myspace apologist, but...My band gets about a third of our booking offers through myspace, and we can credit a significant portion of our draw at shows to posting bulletins about our shows.We've also used it extensively to network with other bands to set up out-of-town shows.It's annoying, it's buggy... it's EXTREMELY useful. How are the turn-outs out-of-town? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bob the dentist Posted June 2, 2006 Members Share Posted June 2, 2006 Originally posted by RoboPimp I found that myspace has a lot more problems running on Internet Explorer. +1 all the Myspaces I've made look like crap when I open them up in IE. And it doesn't work as well, obviously, but my gripe is more how it makes my site look bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BATCAT Posted June 2, 2006 Moderators Share Posted June 2, 2006 Originally posted by fuzzy4dice How are the turn-outs out-of-town? Eh, so-so. We haven't been that consistent in playing other cities-something we're now trying to remedy. I will say, though, that when when we play other cities, and someone tells us they came specifically to see us, much of the time it's because they know us from myspace. And when we play other towns (and don't suck), the next day we often have a bunch of friend requests from people in that town... which should help next time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guvnor Posted June 2, 2006 Members Share Posted June 2, 2006 Originally posted by HarpNinja I can never successfully search for anything on Myspace. I think it is a fad, and will evenutally wain in popularity. The most it has done for me is let me meet some cool bands out of the area.Unless, as a musician, you sit on your computer, lie about a bunch of stuff and invite everybody you can to be your "friend", it isn't very efficient for generating much.I know a guy on there who just brags about himself on his page and it is almost all made up. I don't think anybody buys into it, but he sits around and adds as many 20-something chicks as possible. Then he posts bulletins saying he never spams for friends (which is b.s.)....I am going to stop here since you can see that I have a strong bias as the result of a knuckle head (but if he's so great, why hasn't the real world...or local world...noticed?).I was hoping it would help with fanbase, and it has, but since it is so hard to seach the pages, it is very slow going.All in all, myspace makes me feel dirty when I use it and it is 99% b.s. for 1% cool stuff. But I am thankful for that 1%. I feel the exact same way... my girlfriend loves the damn thing because of the attention those douchebags give her... I was like, 'whatever floats your boat but that {censored}'s creepy' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fuzzy4dice Posted June 2, 2006 Author Members Share Posted June 2, 2006 Originally posted by Actionsquid Eh, so-so. We haven't been that consistent in playing other cities-something we're now trying to remedy. You said a mouthful there buddy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aliengroover Posted June 9, 2006 Members Share Posted June 9, 2006 Originally posted by xonetruedesirex And this is where you're wrong, AOL is owned by Time-Warner, Myspace is owned by Newscorp...Tom made out like a mother{censored}er on that deal, though, $40 million dollars or something ridiculous. Actually, it was purchased for 500-some-odd million dollars (580?). A LOT of loot. It's cool. Nothing I take too seriously, but I know quite a few people who've made some good connections and/or upped their fan base a little. Enough to warrant them keeping the site fresh and updated. They all say it's been worth it to them. Remember mp3.com, tonos, and the tons of other sites that are up even now? If it's not working for you, fine. It can be frustrating to even get around on it (due to all that traffic, likely). But I don't think anything that brings people to your music or business is a bad thing.Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wvukilroy Posted June 11, 2006 Members Share Posted June 11, 2006 In my hometown, the main local promoter does all of his booking through MySpace. The guy gets everyone from local nobodies to very popular acts from several states away. So aside from how badly MySpace lags, welcomes spam- and cam-whores, and is filled with emo kids, you''ll never hear me say a bad word about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members becomingfinal Posted June 24, 2006 Members Share Posted June 24, 2006 i can honestly say that my band wouldn't be doing much in the way of gigging or networking without myspace. i owe myspace for pretty much everything. i mean it. no i'm not being sarcastic....i truly think that without myspace we would be sitting in a warehouse rehearsing on end..wondering when we are gonna "get out there". {censored} ive got 12 shows booked in the next two months. thanks myspace! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members leopardstar Posted June 28, 2006 Members Share Posted June 28, 2006 i'm at soundclick.com and i for one like ittry it outhttp://www.soundclick.com/shanestokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hav3th1sm3rcy Posted June 30, 2006 Members Share Posted June 30, 2006 myspace= horny guys+ slutty girls+ anarchists+ emo kids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vanlatte Posted June 30, 2006 Members Share Posted June 30, 2006 Originally posted by hav3th1sm3rcy myspace= horny guys+ slutty girls+ anarchists+ emo kids + just about any band you can think of. Too bad it's so hard to actually FIND them because of all the slop you have to plow through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stompboxx Posted July 6, 2006 Members Share Posted July 6, 2006 Botttom line is it's a great way to get lots of people to hear you music for nothing. That's what it's about, and it succeeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fuzzy4dice Posted July 6, 2006 Author Members Share Posted July 6, 2006 Originally posted by stompboxx Botttom line is it's a great way to get lots of people to hear you music for nothing. That's what it's about, and it succeeds. Yeah, if the page loads when they get there! In all honesty, it seems to be running a little better now. That's really my biggest gripe about the whole thing...the freezing pages and and the inability to access someone's info and music as easily as a web site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gtrbass Posted July 6, 2006 Members Share Posted July 6, 2006 On myspace, Black Sabbath is my friend Is this great world or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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