Members HBdrummer Posted November 11, 2007 Members Share Posted November 11, 2007 http://www.midwestpercussion.com/graphics/drums/acoustic/yamaha/rogers_prosp_lg.jpg Oh Pllleeeease bring back the Rydeens! I have seen these kits up close and personal (have not played one..nor do I really want to) Yamaha should be ashamed at putting the Rogers name on these..these...these..Ahhhhghhh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members controlledburn Posted November 11, 2007 Members Share Posted November 11, 2007 Seriously! I saw a set at a local music store. The look and feel is at or below the CB level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ThePloughman Posted November 11, 2007 Members Share Posted November 11, 2007 Welcome to life in exile. I continue to play some of the best drums ever built in America. Rogers USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HBdrummer Posted November 11, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 11, 2007 Welcome to life in exile. I continue to play some of the best drums ever built in America. Rogers USA. You got that right Plough!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members theDan Posted November 11, 2007 Members Share Posted November 11, 2007 Yamaha just made a huge mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HBdrummer Posted November 11, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 11, 2007 Yamaha just made a huge mistake. For sure! They aquire the Rogers name and try to resurrect it with this junk? I was always under the impression that the Rydeens were contenders in their price point!? I have not had the pleasure of sitting behind a Rydeen kit, but they recieved STELLAR reviews by drumming publications as well as the drumming community! It just seems like such a step backward for a company that has such a excellent rep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members theDan Posted November 11, 2007 Members Share Posted November 11, 2007 yeah, i would've taken it lighter if this wasn't REPLACING the infamous rydeen line, if this were a mere step down, i'd be ok with it. They'll regret it and come back with the rydeens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SirPsychoBuddha Posted November 12, 2007 Members Share Posted November 12, 2007 Are you serious! They are replacing the rydeens! Thats obsurd! Oh well, i guess there isnt much we can do about it. Yamaha will realize what a stupid move that they made and will try to fix it down the road sometime. In the meantime, if you want a rydeen, i guess you better act fast as they are very good sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HBdrummer Posted November 12, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 12, 2007 Are you serious! They are replacing the rydeens! Thats obsurd! Oh well, i guess there isnt much we can do about it. Yamaha will realize what a stupid move that they made and will try to fix it down the road sometime. In the meantime, if you want a rydeen, i guess you better act fast as they are very good sets. Musicians friend had 5pc. standard kits for $399!!! ALL GONE!I've been looking around at a few different online dealers, and that seems to be the scenario with the Rydeen line:cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted November 12, 2007 Members Share Posted November 12, 2007 Marketing. There should be a party game called Pin the Tail on the Action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HBdrummer Posted November 12, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 12, 2007 Marketing. There should be a party game called Pin the Tail on the Action. Marketing schmarketing..I think that anyone that knows how great Rogers USA drums were and are will be gnashing their pearly whites! Bad Yamaha..bad Yamaha!!! I think they laid a big egg with this one. Fools gold.Time will tell, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted November 12, 2007 Members Share Posted November 12, 2007 Sad huh. Those guys will buy DWs and Maple Customs like they're supposed to. Ya gotta fish where the fish are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members controlledburn Posted November 12, 2007 Members Share Posted November 12, 2007 Another sobering note about these "Rogers" drums: MD ran a very positive review of them a month or two ago - not one negative comment, as I recall. I'll never read their reviews in the same way again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nickg Posted November 12, 2007 Members Share Posted November 12, 2007 my local drum shop got a set of these in. they took a look at them, sent them back and said "No thanks" nice way to destroy the Rogers legacy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members twosticks Posted November 12, 2007 Members Share Posted November 12, 2007 Seriously! I saw a set at a local music store. The look and feel is at or below the CB level. Agreed, My first set was a Jap Stencil set and the pics of the new things look like that stencil set. Notice the copycat Pearl type tom arms (Nothing bad about Pearl tom arms, just the copycat version) Lugs and hoops look really cheap as well. Notice how one cymbal stand is double braced and the other one isn't? Are they too ashamed to show a behind the kit picture too? Then we could see the crappy kick pedal and more of the snare. Yes, if you can find a Rydeen kit, Get it! That's what kills me too! Like clearing out the Rydeens will clear the way for more of these drums sales. I think is the same kit as the old Yamaha YD kits. THey dicountinued those for a reason.... I can't prove it but a business might see it as "we quit making the sets that we were'nt making that much on (the Rydeens) because they are built well and we market these cheaper sets that we make a beter margin on and plus people might buy more because of the Rodgers name, but if it tanks....it won't hurt the Yamaha name" I used to be proud of Yamaha because they made great products at a decent price. It was like they didn't market anything they could be ashamed of...now they just have. My two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HBdrummer Posted November 12, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 12, 2007 Sad huh. Those guys will buy DWs and Maple Customs like they're supposed to. Ya gotta fish where the fish are. I know..It's just like trying to gold plate a turd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members drumtechdad Posted November 12, 2007 Members Share Posted November 12, 2007 It's hard to imagine what they were thinking--it's not as if the world is short of entry-level sets. It seems it was too much to expect Yamaha to give the marque the respect it deserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Carminemw Posted November 12, 2007 Members Share Posted November 12, 2007 I know what they were thinking...Rogers...cha ching! Us older guys who knew what they are like can now reminisce with the newer guys. The newer guys hear the talk and go to rearching. Look ma, I got a Rogers kit like dad had, whatdaya think? Yamaha always makes great drums no matter what. Yamaha-GREAT, Rogers-USED TO BE GREAT...let's put out a product and see if they bite...(no pun intended...well maybe just a little) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HBdrummer Posted November 12, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 12, 2007 I know what they were thinking...Rogers...cha ching! Us older guys who knew what they are like can now reminisce with the newer guys. The newer guys hear the talk and go to rearching. Look ma, I got a Rogers kit like dad had, whatdaya think? Yamaha always makes great drums no matter what. Yamaha-GREAT, Rogers-USED TO BE GREAT...let's put out a product and see if they bite...(no pun intended...well maybe just a little) I know it was no pun intended..,,but, yeah..bite they do! I've seen 'em and even their "higher end" looks like over glorified Percussion Plus! Why, oh for the luvalucy, would you market a drum line using a "high end" aquired brand name to sell your entry level equipment???? I kinda see what you are saying Carmine. I just have a soft spot for Rogers USA, and:cry: Yamaha, a company I had repect for, just jammed a rusty blade into it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mickey66 Posted November 13, 2007 Members Share Posted November 13, 2007 I really mis my old Blue Ripple set 1965 or 66 don't remember.... USA made Rogers drums...these new made in china re-issue's are just so sorry....major screw-up by a major drum maker(no respect for the brand name at all) AND the sad thing is this....when a young drummer hears the name Rogers drums he or she will say oh! those they are **** this is what happens when you have been playing as long as I have...you watch your Fav's go down in flames.... I have a question....why didn't DW buy the name and produce some high-end Rogers drums? Well,as I remember them they were all high-end at the time.... 1960's at least. I could just scream!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mickey66 Posted November 13, 2007 Members Share Posted November 13, 2007 Welcome to life in exile. I continue to play some of the best drums ever built in America. Rogers USA. I am filled with fear when I think of what it would cost me now days to replace my 1965-66 Blue Ripple Kit in mint cond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Carminemw Posted November 13, 2007 Members Share Posted November 13, 2007 I really mis my old Blue Ripple set 1965 or 66 don't remember.... USA made Rogers drums...these new made in china re-issue's are just so sorry....major screw-up by a major drum maker(no respect for the brand name at all) AND the sad thing is this....when a young drummer hears the name Rogers drums he or she will say oh! those they are **** this is what happens when you have been playing as long as I have...you watch your Fav's go down in flames.... I have a question....why didn't DW buy the name and produce some high-end Rogers drums? Well,as I remember them they were all high-end at the time.... 1960's at least. I could just scream!!!! See it goes both ways though...I remember when DW was nothing but a fly on the wall. That's how I remembered them until I saw the new stuff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mickey66 Posted November 13, 2007 Members Share Posted November 13, 2007 A friend of mine works at the Bass Place in Tempe,az....all they sell are Bass's world wide....I was told two days ago that within 5 years all,I repeat all instruments will be made in China! Now,that being said....the makers that stay in the good ole USA....USA made such as DW or the new USA high-end stuff will cost a-lot more than now by leaps and bounds....only for the very rich musician or collector....got it from a good source. I was told to hold on to all my USA made instruments,drums,guitars,etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mickey66 Posted November 13, 2007 Members Share Posted November 13, 2007 See it goes both ways though...I remember when DW was nothing but a fly on the wall. That's how I remembered them until I saw the new stuff... Carmine....you have a good point here and I hope some new USA maker will pick up the Drum banner should they all fall to China....which it would appear that this is what is happing(not DW yet!)Remember DW bought out a part of Camco BUT how long can the USA makers hold on with this kind of onslaught or makers period who make high-end instruments in the USA? If everybody buys crap that's all they will sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members danrothmusic Posted November 13, 2007 Members Share Posted November 13, 2007 yeah, I saw some of the "Rodgers" kits at PASIC...I didn't even bother playing them because they looked so cheap. True, looks can be deceiving, but you can usually sniff out a crappy piece of equipment by how it looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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