Members boxofrocks Posted August 20, 2008 Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 Why? I better stay out of this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RumStik Posted August 20, 2008 Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 Why? Because I have a history of speaking my mind on the subject...shall we say...to "much critical acclaim." Inevitably, I end up pissing off everyone that plays a 4-piece. I hate 4-piece setups...even if only because they are so "fashionable." If you're going to short-set yourself, I'd rather see you on a 2 or 3 piece. At least it wouldn't be the same {censored} you see literally everywhere. I hate anything that's "cookie cutter." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slap happy drums Posted August 20, 2008 Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 I played a 4 piece before it was fashionable , I been rockin' the 4 since the 1930's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boxofrocks Posted August 20, 2008 Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 Oh ok, Aint pissing me off and I play a 4 usually, but not cause its trendy. Its all that will fit in the trunk lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BATCAT Posted August 20, 2008 Moderators Share Posted August 20, 2008 I hate 4-piece setups...even if only because they are so "fashionable." If you're going to short-set yourself, I'd rather see you on a 2 or 3 piece. At least it wouldn't be the same {censored} you see literally everywhere. I sort of don't get this. Four-piece kits have been pretty standard since the beginning; I don't even understand how they could even be "fashionable". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RumStik Posted August 20, 2008 Members Share Posted August 20, 2008 Well, what's "standard" is a matter of perception. So is what's "fashionable." Perhaps "in vogue" is a better way to express what I'm saying about the 4-piece. And if it is indeed "standard," that would only serve to increase my disdain for them. What can I say? That's just me...and having to explain myself this way is the reason my first impulse was to avoid it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 I knew everything so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RumStik Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 I been rockin' the 4 since the 1930'sWow. In the last pic of you I saw, you didn't look a day over 69. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Majoria Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 I know what you mean about hating certain kits. For me, I hate the 5 piece with two floor toms. No real good reason, I just detest the location of the second floor tom in that setup. Not just because of how it's played but it just look stupid. I'd rather have a 4 piece than a 5 piece with dual floor toms. No logic, just an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RumStik Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 For me, I hate the 5 piece with two floor toms. I'd rather have a 4 piece than a 5 piece with dual floor toms. I agree 100%. If I had a 2nd most hated setup, that would be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BlackTuesday Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 Although I have a four peice I HATE that setup! It doesnt give me enough variety and also it does make it hard to play metal and rock covers which is mostly what I play. On a positive note I think everyone should play a few covers on a four peice just because it forces you to be more creative with fills and what not. Works wonders but its just a pain in the arse(atleast for me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members johnnyringo Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 what a fukin retard I am... I can no longer call myself an IT guy. Was staring RIGHT at me, but I just couldn't figure it out. Maybe you are an idiot, a moron, dumb, or just plain stupid.The word "retard" is not an insulting word, it comes from mentally retarded which is a mental disorder. I work with these special people everyday, and believe me, they are not the stupid ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members johnnyringo Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 The only time a four piece will look out of place is if you are doing prog wankery in the fashion of Dream Theatre or Rush. It works well for everything else. If you are playing prog wankery... You'll want this guy. Playing a kit like that is easier than playing a four piece. If you are a good enough drummer four drums are all you need to play anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jadz01 Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 4 piece kit = ROCK!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members satman Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 i just wonder what a kit like that costs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cheeseadiddle Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 I played a 4 piece before it was fashionable , I been rockin' the 4 since the 1930's I've been rockin' the four since Abe Lincoln's inaugural party, kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mraia1 Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 I dont agree that the 4 makes you more creative in Fills. I find it a bit stifling. More drums, more choices as to where your going to land your hands, imo. Not that theres anything wrong with the 4 piece. I enjoy stripping down and playing it, as I find it a little "freeer" or less cluttered. BUT, I have never thought of it as making me a better drummer, and the "whats in fashion" aspect of it is onerous. I agree with Rumstik that whats fashionable at any given time usually sucks, but I dont necessarily apply that to a drum set. Whatever will serve the music is whats necessary. For my last gig, I had 3 racks and a floor tom, a set of RotoToms, bass and snare. I barely touched the Rotos, but if your gonna do your best Steward Copeland, they work nicely. I guess this is a long way of saying exactly what most guys have said already, that its a matter of personal taste. I have a singular talent for regurgitating what others have said, but turning it into a Russian novel:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RumStik Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 Yeah, I get sick of hearing "it forces you to be more creative." What a load of crap. You're either creative or you aren't...what's that got to do with the number of drums in front of you? It's much simpler than that. If you're playing a part written for 5 toms on 2 toms, you're not being creative...you're compromising...compensating...covering even...but creating? Nuh-uh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members theFoot Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 Maybe you are an idiot, a moron, dumb, or just plain stupid.The word "retard" is not an insulting word, it comes from mentally retarded which is a mental disorder. I work with these special people everyday, and believe me, they are not the stupid ones.I don't think he was insulting himself. Monsieur SkiAzzzzz was refering to the fact that he is slow in developing his mental abilities. You see, SkiAz has been using the US (or US-International) QWERTY keyboard layout for many many years, and had yet to aquire mastery of the device until yesterday. Like the developmentally challenged folks you speak of, Monsieur SkiAz is inhibited by his mental abilities at times. Although, the major difference is that his mental abilities become limited on a voluntary basis, rather than a congenital condition.And I agree, there are multitudes of people far dumber than most of the special needs folks I've ever dealt with.PSwho needs a 4-piece kit. i'm gunna build a giant prog kit out of pizza boxes and tupperware so I can do Metalica covers. WOOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RumStik Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 PS who needs a 4-piece kit. i'm gunna build a giant prog kit out of pizza boxes and tupperware so I can do Metalica covers. WOOT! Hey, way to bring it back on topic, there Footsie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members theFoot Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 Hey, way to bring it back on topic, there Footsie. i do what i can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JSimms Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 Because I have a history of speaking my mind on the subject...shall we say...to "much critical acclaim." Inevitably, I end up pissing off everyone that plays a 4-piece. I hate 4-piece setups...even if only because they are so "fashionable." If you're going to short-set yourself, I'd rather see you on a 2 or 3 piece. At least it wouldn't be the same {censored} you see literally everywhere. I hate anything that's "cookie cutter." Do you also hate bands that have two guitars, bass, and drums like every other band in the universe?How about Toyota Camrys? Or, how about those bandwagon jumpers that have four wheels on their car like everyone else? Damn trendy bastards... :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BigMac5 Posted August 21, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 Yeah, I get sick of hearing "it forces you to be more creative." What a load of crap. You're either creative or you aren't...what's that got to do with the number of drums in front of you?It's much simpler than that. If you're playing a part written for 5 toms on 2 toms, you're not being creative...you're compromising...compensating...covering even...but creating? Nuh-uh. Out of curiosity, what is your preferred setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RumStik Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 Out of curiosity, what is your preferred setup? Well again, it's a matter of application, but, if I was back in a mixed-covers band, I'd play a minimum 3-up/1-down setup,* with possible alternative-voice additions or substitutions, (e.g., timbales, aux. snare, etc.), for specific songs, if necessary. *That's snare, kick, 3 rack toms, 1 floor tom Currently, I'd best be described as a non-gigging "hobbyist," and my stationary home laboratory rig is 5-up/2-down, 2 snares, 1 kick, 11 cymbals, (counting stacks as one). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members D Carroll Posted August 21, 2008 Members Share Posted August 21, 2008 Thats why we keep you around, to tell us why not to play a 4 piece... I am a little upset this time though, you didn't mention parachute paints... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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