Members Miskatonic Posted November 20, 2008 Members Share Posted November 20, 2008 I'm selling some cymbals online and I received a message asking me what the weight of one of the cymbals was in grams. Is this guy just yanking my chain or is this relevant to cymbals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RumStik Posted November 20, 2008 Members Share Posted November 20, 2008 Of course weight is directly relevant to a competent evaluation of a cymbal you can't hold in your hands. I'd wanna know too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members D Carroll Posted November 20, 2008 Members Share Posted November 20, 2008 yep, it's legit. weigh it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cearleywine Posted November 20, 2008 Members Share Posted November 20, 2008 Definitely, many online dealers won't post without those specs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members D Carroll Posted November 20, 2008 Members Share Posted November 20, 2008 A weird ebay question would be "Have you recently eaten a hot pocket off of this cymbal, to give it a pepperoni and cheese sound?" Or, "Have you accidently mistook this cymbal for a sled in a recent snow, and rode it down an icy hill, only to find out that it took off the top layer of finish, and gave it a jazzy sound? Because that is the only kind of cymbal I buy." Or, "If I purchase your product, do you think it will properly defend me against a poo-flinging monkey army?" Take your pick... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Darten Posted November 20, 2008 Members Share Posted November 20, 2008 poo-flinging... now that is funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TamaDrummer0 Posted November 20, 2008 Members Share Posted November 20, 2008 A weird ebay question would be "Have you recently eaten a hot pocket off of this cymbal, to give it a pepperoni and cheese sound?" Lmaoo +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCR Posted November 20, 2008 Members Share Posted November 20, 2008 I'm selling some cymbals online and I received a message asking me what the weight of one of the cymbals was in grams. Is this guy just yanking my chain or is this relevant to cymbals? It's a very common question... but usually reserved for "Vintage" cymbals.One that should have been included in your description on the cymbal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members polarnewfie Posted November 20, 2008 Members Share Posted November 20, 2008 Modern cymbals are much more uniform in production, but all cast cymbals vary in weights, as there is a large portion of manufacture that is done by hand (hammering, lathing, etc). but cymbals of the 50's and 60's and even 70's had great variations in actual weight within the same lineup's and often back to back off the line. For a given size and purpose, the weight can tell you how dark/bright a cymbal is for the expected line. For example if you are selling an 18" crash, the average weight for that line may be 4 pounds, but if the one you are selling is 3.3 pounds, the buyer can expect a thinner darker sound than average, or if its 5 pounds, it is possibly heavier, producing a brighter harsher louder sound. I always ask the weight, since I can't test it myself, this way I can have some sort of idea what type of sound to expect. Asking the buyer is too subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members D Carroll Posted November 20, 2008 Members Share Posted November 20, 2008 Another common ebay question I would be weary of is "I like your cymbal, do you accept trades for cheese wheels?" But, I would say about 90% of those are from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Watchdog Posted November 20, 2008 Members Share Posted November 20, 2008 Some yahoos out there like to grind down cymbals to remove cracks and sell them as the next size down. I would imagine this is the reason for the question. Or to avoid cheap imitations. Or because the really are looking for a cymbal to protect against a poo-flinging monkey army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted November 20, 2008 Members Share Posted November 20, 2008 Would the hi res metric weight be a way to authenticate the delivered product? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RumStik Posted November 20, 2008 Members Share Posted November 20, 2008 Would the hi res metric weight be a way to authenticate the delivered product? It could be used for that, but it's incidental. The reason for asking is to get some idea of the cymbal's physical characteristics. A 20" ride that weighs 3200g will be more like a "rock ride;" higher-pitched and pingy-er than one that weighs 2600g, which one could expect to play darker, softer and washy-er. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members k bollox Posted November 20, 2008 Members Share Posted November 20, 2008 It could be used for that, but it's incidental. The reason for asking is to get some idea of the cymbal's physical characteristics. A 20" ride that weighs 3200g will be more like a "rock ride;" higher-pitched and pingy-er than one that weighs 2600g, which one could expect to play darker, softer and washy-er. Rum's on it, without a soundfile to preview what you're buying, the weight (in grams or lbs) will give you some idea of the character of the cymbal. I have 22" rides that range from 2300 grams - 3200 grams, they are very different animals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members skinthrasher Posted November 20, 2008 Members Share Posted November 20, 2008 A weird ebay question would be "Have you recently eaten a hot pocket off of this cymbal, to give it a pepperoni and cheese sound?" Or, "Have you accidently mistook this cymbal for a sled in a recent snow, and rode it down an icy hill, only to find out that it took off the top layer of finish, and gave it a jazzy sound? Because that is the only kind of cymbal I buy." Or, "If I purchase your product, do you think it will properly defend me against a poo-flinging monkey army?" Take your pick... Have you ever been assaulted by a poo flinging monkey? It not too enjoyable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted November 20, 2008 Members Share Posted November 20, 2008 Rum's on it, without a soundfile to preview what you're buying, the weight (in grams or lbs) will give you some idea of the character of the cymbal. I have 22" rides that range from 2300 grams - 3200 grams, they are very different animals. Newfie mentioned this too. Useful info there guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 2xBass Posted November 21, 2008 Members Share Posted November 21, 2008 Another common ebay question I would be weary of is "I like your cymbal, do you accept trades for cheese wheels?"But, I would say about 90% of those are from me. Somebody is hungry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members D Carroll Posted November 21, 2008 Members Share Posted November 21, 2008 Somebody is hungry... Not now, I just made barbeque chicken, backed beans, and a lot of hot sauce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Watchdog Posted November 21, 2008 Members Share Posted November 21, 2008 backed beans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Miskatonic Posted November 21, 2008 Author Members Share Posted November 21, 2008 Now I know... And knowing is half the battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members D Carroll Posted November 21, 2008 Members Share Posted November 21, 2008 Now I know... And knowing is half the battle. The other half is poo flinging monkeys, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCR Posted November 21, 2008 Members Share Posted November 21, 2008 The other half is poo flinging monkeys, no? What would life be w/o them??? Not worth living, I say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wmcutter Posted November 21, 2008 Members Share Posted November 21, 2008 Absolutely give the weight of the cymbal (in grams if possible). A postal scale will give weight in grams. If you don't own one, drop by the local Post Office, they have one. I'm always amazed by the number of cymbal listings on ebay that don't include the weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Miskatonic Posted November 21, 2008 Author Members Share Posted November 21, 2008 Absolutely give the weight of the cymbal (in grams if possible). A postal scale will give weight in grams. If you don't own one, drop by the local Post Office, they have one. I'm always amazed by the number of cymbal listings on ebay that don't include the weight. Since they are still up I can go back and revise them to add the weight. I weighed the scale at home and it came out to 3.5lbs. I converted it to grams for the person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marko46 Posted November 21, 2008 Members Share Posted November 21, 2008 I have an old triple beam that I'm not using, so after reading this I wheighed my Avedis 6" splash just for {censored}s & gigles. But then the weird {censored} started. I got out a zip lock baggy and put it in it, called an old friend and told him to come over, I was holdin'. Some {censored} never changes I swear.......................... Plus, I'm all of a sudden very paroniod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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